I'm usually a lurker, but I've noticed people recently complaining about the hub being boring at the moment. I feel like this thread was posted to liven things up but when opinions were questioned people became defensive and were taking things personally and to me at least it's representative of why things are boring at the moment.
People take things as a personal attack when (seemingly) their views are being challenged.
With everything that's happening across the world, it's hard not to feel depressed and hopeless. People have been quite shaken of what's in the news these days and it's not like something that you can just shake off.
For the record, I wasn't offended or felt under attack. I was expecting some debate (and hoping for it). But I was frustrated and felt like I knew where the argument was heading when i was asked about my environment etc and the more I argued my point the more I felt I was opening myself up to misinterpretation.
Happy to continue discussions about why life as we know it is going to change (probably for the worse) for many other reasons
Last edited by Little Miss Sunshine; 17-07-2016 at 11:42.
There are actually quite a lot of academic debates by noted historians and anthropologists about this very topic that have been ongoing for a long time.
Also, saying that one thinks multiculturalism ideals are flawed doesn't mean that person is anti-multiculturalism.
Are we so politically correct as a society that we can't question or criticise social and political structures without being labelled as racist?
I live in a munticultural area, & both me & my children have close friendships & are heavily involved with different cultures. That being said, I absolutely recognise that there are challenges to living in a multicultural society. It would be very ignorant to suggest otherwise, and unhelpful to pretend these challenges didnt exist.Of course there will be challenges. The question is, are we a society that is willing to overcome these challenges, and work together, or are we a society that willl follow the Jackie Lambies and Pauline Hansons, and be unwilling to overcome our cultural differences.
In regards to ISIS - I believe they will be the biggest threat of our time, & I think the only way we will stop ISIS is by waging war, which is so sad and unfortunate. They are pute evil, & they will have to be stopped, just as we stopped Hitler and Saddam and Pol Pot.
In regards to Muslims - I would never tar all people from one group with the same brush. I am a christian & it happens to christian people ALL.THE.TIME. It isnt something that is new, and it isnt something that is exclusive to Muslims. There are extremist christians. There are extremist Muslims. There are extremist athiests. I accept people for who they are regardless of religion or race.
I think multiculturalism works in Australia. It's not perfect, however, most of the 'trouble makers' (religious extremists and racists) I suspect would have found ways to cause trouble (under a different 'cause') in a single culture society anyway. There are bad eggs in every group and probably always will be.
The fear is so ingrained and dormant sometimes that people don't even realise they ARE in fact scared. And this isn't about white Australia, necessarily. It's just about not wanting your quality of life to be affected by change, whether that's having high rise buildings crop up all over your neighbourhood or your jobs being threatened by competition. The biggest threat to a small community is immigration, because people need to live somewhere, and low density zoning just isn't sustainable if you're in a metropolitan area.
Unfortunately, minority groups are a lot easier to target as the cause of this change, because they are so obviously "immigrants" (never mind the fact that a lot of the non-Anglo-Saxon residents here are 2nd and 3rd generation Australian), even though we have a large % of immigrants from UK, Europe and NZ.
You're right about trouble makers finding ways to make trouble wherever they are. Turkey's government has just been overthrown. The war in Syria began as a civil war.. Etc
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