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    Quote Originally Posted by deku View Post
    Greens/Labour.
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    3. Marriage equality - this is just a no-brainer, change the damn laws already.

    Oh also - healthcare and tertiary education. Do we really want either of those to end up like America's systems? Please no.
    What is the labor party's policy for marriage equality? What's their plan? Aside from launching an attack on a plebiscite that Shorten was fully in support of 3 years ago?

    Also, where are the LNP policies for privatising Medicare and education? Specific policies on their website please, not quotes from labor politicians about what could potentially happen under an LNP government?

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    Re Labor's plans for marriage equality, Shorten has said it would be the first Bill introduced to a new Parliament.

    http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics...27-gptcy8.html
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    I agree that Malcolm Turnbull has been disappointing, purely for the fact that he hasn't even tried aligning the party's policies with his own beliefs on marriage equality and climate change. As he said right after he overthrew Abbott, he's going to "toe the party line". What I'm hoping for is an LNP win which will give his position as PM enough validity to be able to convince the other members in his party that some of the governments policies on social issues need to change.

    From an ideological perspective, I believe in deregulation, small government and economic prosperity through enterprise success. So naturally, I would always vote liberals, although I don't always agree with their policies or necessarily like their leaders. I did love John Howard though. Those were the days!

    I voted yesterday and glad to get it over with. Not particularly fond of sausage sizzles and my Saturday is going to be hectic enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    Re Labor's plans for marriage equality, Shorten has said it would be the first Bill introduced to a new Parliament.

    http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics...27-gptcy8.html
    Ha, ha yes sure. Their actual policy on their website says that within the first 100 days in government they will have a "debate" in parliament. No mention of an actual bill being passed but even if one is written up, Legislation doesn't just get passed so easily. And good luck passing anything through the senate with the likes of the Pauline hansons and other whackos getting senate seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJaq View Post
    Sorry if this sounds harsh, but have you actually read this article through properly? Do you understand what exactly is being "privatised"?

    This isn't about cutting Medicare payments or making healthcare private, it's just about outsourcing one function in the way payments are processed to make the payments more efficient and cheaper. anyone who has tried dealing directly with Medicare or Centrelink would know that their system at the moment is extremely inefficient and unnecessarily bureaucratic. But of course, the media and labor spin this so extraordinarily that now Malcolm Turnbull is cutting Medicare and privatising it. Yes he is cutting costs! That is one thing labor don't know how to do.

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    Because spending $160 million on an opinion poll when you could just put a bill through parliament makes great financial sense?

    People have no idea how damaging the advertising that will come from a plebiscite on marriage equality will be for the LGBTIQA+ community, particularly those couples with children old enough to understand some of the inevitable vitriol that will be spouted as a result.

    And it's not binding anyway. Turnbull has already said regardless of the results he'll be putting it to his party before anything else happens, so call me cynical but I certainly don't foresee this expensive poll having any bearing on the actual changing of the marriage act, regardless of the result.

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