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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    But why?

    Because of the DD? 6 years is so long!

    Does that mean some electorates won't get to vote for the senate?

    I know these are stupid questions. Sorry. I can't politics. It bends my head.

    ETA I just read Antony's article and I get it!

    *whispers* I still don't get it!
    Normally at an election only half the senators in each state are up for re-election. One half one election, the other half the next election and so on. So under normal circumstances senators still hold their position for 6 years. When a DD has happened, they need to bring it back into sync so yes, half the senators will hold their position for 6 years and the other half will be up for re-election at the next federal election in 3 years. How they decide who gets 3 and who gets 6 years is explained more in the link but it's pretty long winded.

    This doesn't apply to territory senators; they are up for re-election at the same time as the House of Reps. I have no idea why.

    ETA:.....at least I think my explanation is correct.....

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    Omg the things you grow up never knowing! I blame the teachers! Lousy teachers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Omg the things you grow up never knowing! I blame the teachers! Lousy teachers.

    Thanks @Moxy
    I learned this in social studies. I reckon after the DD of 1975 a lot of this got taught in school for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I learned this in social studies. I reckon after the DD of 1975 a lot of this got taught in school for a while
    I remember having to watch "The Dismissal" in social studies - we slept on the floor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    I remember having to watch "The Dismissal" in social studies - we slept on the floor!
    Me too! The best part of the dismissal was Norman Gunston standing beside Gough giving the thumbs up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallpotatoes View Post
    Yep. As soon as the Senate sits again they'll decide who gets 6 year terms and who gets 3. There's two methods of deciding. If anyone is interested, Antony Green had an informative blog post about it

    Eta : the two methods are the order method so the first six to be elected get the six year terms and the next 3, or the recount method where they recount as if it was a half senate election where there is a higher quota

    http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/...ssolution.html

    Shorter explanations: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...lained/7571406
    Omg Antony Green blogs !!! How did I miss that.

    I'm so ridiculously excited by that. I love parliament and elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    This doesn't apply to territory senators; they are up for re-election at the same time as the House of Reps. I have no idea why.
    My guess is because they only have 2 senators and having to elect 1 per election is too tedious or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    I find this a bit offensive, sorry, & I understand what @teenie was saying. I am a christian, & I 100% and would fiercely defend the right for ANYONE to practice their religion, whatever it may be. I have friends from a range of religions (and no religion), & we are all "accepting" as you put it. I completely agree there are ar$eholes who are christian - just like there are ar$eholes who are muslim, hindu, buddhist & athiest. Let's not put everyone in one basket based on religion - otherwise we are really not any better than Pauline Hanson putting all "muslims" or "asians" or whoever else she opposes into one basket.
    Did you read and understand my responses after that post?

    And muslims face a lot of DANGEROUS persecution in this country...Asians face racism. It is not the same. Christians are not persecuted here.

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    I'm not Christian, but I did definitely sense a hint of Christian bashing going on. I think it shouldn't be too hard to say that Pauline Hanson is an idiot without criticizing Christians.
    Oh, and if someone says that they are offended by what you said, it's usually polite to apologize and then explain that they misinterpreted what you meant, rather than just telling them to relax. It what we expect when someone makes a comment that some people might consider sexist or racist, so it shouldn't be any different if someone perceives a comment to be anti-Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    I'm not Christian, but I did definitely sense a hint of Christian bashing going on. I think it shouldn't be too hard to say that Pauline Hanson is an idiot without criticizing Christians.
    Oh, and if someone says that they are offended by what you said, it's usually polite to apologize and then explain that they misinterpreted what you meant, rather than just telling them to relax. It what we expect when someone makes a comment that some people might consider sexist or racist, so it shouldn't be any different if someone perceives a comment to be anti-Christian.
    So criticizing Christians who support Pauline Hanson and her ideas is wrong? Because that's all that was happening.

    No one said all Christians are bad.

    And I told that person to relax because I wasn't attacking her or anyone decent...no one was. We were criticizing harmful people and ideas. Some of those ideas stem from Christianity or misinterpreting what it is supposed to stand for.

    I apologise if I DID offend anyone because that wasn't my intention.

    The debate comparing oppressed groups to dominant groups is tiring so I won't bother at the moment.


 

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