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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaMM View Post
    I got ripped off locally but dr k gave everything he promised. 15 weeks pregnant
    @k8tti

    Have you considered lakentro . Google Ruth Pellow & she can help you get some info for pricing etc .

    I'm going with iakentro but I am working straight with a clinician due to Australian contacts .

    Ruth Pellow can facilitate & I think pricing is around 6,000 euro

    There are good reviews on lakentro , I would investigate .
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    Quote Originally Posted by k8tti View Post
    Hi Girls

    I am new and trying to find as much help as possible before I start my DE assisted IVF. 3 Failed IVF attempts with OE I was almost devastated when I saw the Greece option and this forum. I can see if one door closes the other opens. I started to research my DE options and settled down for Greece. The problem is there are so many clinics. I mailed a few and they all responded. Already burnt up financially by the failed attempts I am very nervous about the clinic now.

    I am sure various clinics have been discussed in the forum but EMBRYOLAND seems to dominate the discussions. They are expensive. They are charging as follows:

    Embryoland

    - medicines for the hormone stimulation of the donor ca. 900 Euro
    - the Embryotransfer between 5.300 and 5.700 Euro.
    - PGD for 4 embryos 2.000 Euro

    Collectively we are talking about ~8600 Euros for one cycle.
    I have the following clinics sorted out:

    Mediterranean Fertility Institute - IVF Greece (Crete)

    4500 Euros for DE+IVF
    300 Euros for embryo freezing
    1500 Euros for PGD for upto 8 embryos

    1000 Euros for the second transfer of FE

    For one cycle Euro 6000

    Medimall IVF Clinic Greece

    The regular treatment is as follows:
    Included SERVICE:
    Sperm Freezing (inc. I year storage)
    Egg retrieval and laboratory work
    IVF or ICSI
    Extended Culture
    Transfer
    Cryopreservation of embryos (inc. 1 year storage)
    Medication for the Donor
    PGD 1000 EURO
    Total for one cycle: 7,000 € (Euro)

    FET EURO 1500

    They also have a money back guarantee scheme

    They offer for three IVF choices, prepaying the final cost (13.500 €) in two installments. In case of failure of all three attempts, Medimall guarantees that the totality of money paid will be given back.

    I need help girls. Can someone please respond if they have had any experience of any of these clinics. I know there are a lot good stories about embryoland but nothing on the other clinics.

    Many thanks in advance

    Hi K8tti

    I understand how overwhelming it all is. There are so many clinics in Athens and the reason we decided to choose Embryoland and Dr Nikos was seriously just going with our gut, I’m so glad we made this decision though.

    In the months leading up to our visit Dr Nikos confirmed that we knew what tests we needed to have done to ensure we had healthy baby and would have regular skype appointments with us to answer any questions and to let us know what would be next. Getting closer to our trip Dr Nikos gave me his personal mobile number so I could text/call him to make sure the donor and I were synced correctly and all of the timings were right to have the best chance of success. When we made it to Athens in January I could not have asked for a better experience. Embryoland is a very nice clinic. Dr Nikos and his team are extremely professional and knew exactly what they were doing. They were also so kind and friendly and they genuinely cared - it was more like being treated by family members. Dr Nikos constantly kept us informed with what was going on so we knew exactly what was happening every step of the way throughout the treatment. I always felt calm, positive and confident in what was happening and that we were in the best possible hands.

    While there is definitely no guarantees with treatment like this, thanks to Dr Nikos I am now 26 weeks pregnant with a little boy! Even though I’m now back home in Australia now I continue to be in contact with Dr Nikos throughout my pregnancy. I honestly cannot recommend Dr Nikos and the team at Embryoland highly enough.

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    Hi Guy's
    Ruth put me on the pill in prep for my FET on 26/7, ive now been on it for 2 months, she told me to stop taking it on 8/7 but i finished my pill packet last Thursday and got my period the next day after 6 weeks. She told me to buy another pill packet and just take 2 and stop but said this wasn't mandatory so i just finished my pill last thursday. Will this be ok im starting to stress that i will be ovulating around the 15th which is well before my transfer date? she say's the nxt lot of drugs are the transfer prep drugs that i need to worry about for success?
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    @ lissimmo

    Hi , did you have to have a BT to confirm down regulation ? Are you taking any other meds like synarel ?


    In the down regulation method the test tells you your baseline hormones are shut down . I bled right through Taking the pill & thought it was a period but apparently on the pill it's not a proper period any way it's breakthrough bleeding .

    You are probably on a different protocol to mine it seems .

    What's Ruth's sdvise out of curiousity ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k8tti View Post
    Hi Girls

    I am new and trying to find as much help as possible before I start my DE assisted IVF. 3 Failed IVF attempts with OE I was almost devastated when I saw the Greece option and this forum. I can see if one door closes the other opens. I started to research my DE options and settled down for Greece. The problem is there are so many clinics. I mailed a few and they all responded. Already burnt up financially by the failed attempts I am very nervous about the clinic now.

    I am sure various clinics have been discussed in the forum but EMBRYOLAND seems to dominate the discussions. They are expensive. They are charging as follows:

    Embryoland

    - medicines for the hormone stimulation of the donor ca. 900 Euro
    - the Embryotransfer between 5.300 and 5.700 Euro.
    - PGD for 4 embryos 2.000 Euro

    Collectively we are talking about ~8600 Euros for one cycle.
    I have the following clinics sorted out:

    Mediterranean Fertility Institute - IVF Greece (Crete)

    4500 Euros for DE+IVF
    300 Euros for embryo freezing
    1500 Euros for PGD for upto 8 embryos

    1000 Euros for the second transfer of FE

    For one cycle Euro 6000

    Medimall IVF Clinic Greece

    The regular treatment is as follows:
    Included SERVICE:
    Sperm Freezing (inc. I year storage)
    Egg retrieval and laboratory work
    IVF or ICSI
    Extended Culture
    Transfer
    Cryopreservation of embryos (inc. 1 year storage)
    Medication for the Donor
    PGD 1000 EURO
    Total for one cycle: 7,000 € (Euro)

    FET EURO 1500

    They also have a money back guarantee scheme

    They offer for three IVF choices, prepaying the final cost (13.500 €) in two installments. In case of failure of all three attempts, Medimall guarantees that the totality of money paid will be given back.

    I need help girls. Can someone please respond if they have had any experience of any of these clinics. I know there are a lot good stories about embryoland but nothing on the other clinics.

    Many thanks in advance
    Hi, just thought id add in my 2cents. I looked at the clinics that seemed to specialise in overseas people coming to do donor ivf. I checked out serum, iakentro and embryoland as they were the ones mentioned on this forum and i wanted to go to one where 'real'australian ladies had recommended through personal experience and i could feel confident i was getting unbiased info about them. I didnt choose iakentro because i didnt feel the need to have ruth help facilitate with traveling overseas and i wanted to holiday in athens not thessaloniki. I didnt choose serum because rhey wanted me to do a lot of operations and tests and take meds that my aus feetility soecialist said werent necessary and serum is run by a nurse not a doctor, which i didnt like. Serum also have never gotten back to me. Dr nikos at embryoland also said all the expensive stuff serum wanted me to do was unnessesary. Dr nikos skypes with me all the time and instantly gets back to me by phone, text or email. So i am very happy i have chosen him and there is great success with the ladies on here at his clinic.
    Regarding working out costs, i was like you in that iakentro and serum seemed a bit cheaper at first but all the stuff serum wanted me to do beforehand would have made the costs comparable to embryoland. Also check carefully whether freezing costs are per embryo or for the whole batch of whatevers left. Serum charge per embryo so if i had 3 or 4 to freeze it would be way more expensive than embryoland. That shocked me. Whereas embryolands freezing cost is a one off for all your embryos. Also i initially included pgd costs in my comparisons but if you are using a donor and your partner has no family history of chromosomal abnormalities you wont beed to use pgd. Thats the freat thing about ysing young eggs. So i eliminated pgd from my costing comparisons.
    I know how hard it is to choose because in a way its one of the biggest decisions ever. It was stressful. But im really glad i went with embryoland. Dr nikos also warned me to check other cheaper clinics arent offerei g 'egg sharing' cycles. I.e. make sure they arent cheap because you arent getting all the eggs from the cycle.
    All up, embryoland ended up being about 1000euros more expensive compared to serum but in the grand scheme of things, it wasnt that much extra. Me and my partner really like dr nikos. He seems to care about us as people so im glad i chose him.
    Please ask if there's anything else i can help with. And i wish you all the best, whatever you decide xox

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    Default Preparation for de cycle at embryoland

    Just wanted to ask if anyone knows, dr nikos does not have me 'down regging' for my de cycle. I think this is because the dates that i am going to athens, nicely fall in the right time of my natural cycle. So all im doing is taking eastrodol? (Progynova to help create/sustain my lining.) When he tells me to. Having done so much own egg ivf, i naturally start thinking should i be on synarel or the pill? Just wondering if anyone else has been prepped for a cycle in such a minimal way. It almost seems too easy, lol!

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    Gorgeousgeorge most of the clinics when doing de have you down regulate for the cycle but it seem embryoland often do natural or slightly medicated cycles, I can't see why that should be a problem as I know the down regulated cycles are used to control and time things down precisely, maybe he prefers a more natural cycle.
    on the issue of pgd with de egg, I think if I had my time over again I would consider this if it was a reasonable cost, my donor was 23 but we still managed to get a blighted ovum out of the cycle and they are very common in de cycles as well, and are due to chromosomal reasons. Even young donors produce wonky eggs that's why you generally see up to a 60-70% drop off in the embryos by the time day 5 comes around. Oh and I'm pretty sure penny is more qualified than a nurse, this was discussed at large on the ff uk forum a while ago, I just can't quite remember, and even though she isn't a "fertility specialist dr" she has a great team of fully qualified embryologists and dr's working at the clinic. I do agree regarding a lot of the tests they like you to get but the clinic specialises in hard cases that a lot of other clinics have given up on, I know the clinic that I ended up going to in Czech Republic, once you have had a failed cycle with them, they then produce a long list of things that they want you to do before you go back.

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    @k8tti . Just to clarify Iakentro is also in Athens & has a few other locations.

    In terms of costs it varies on procedures so the 6000 euro is what mine comes to , but my case is a little different as I'm using a clinician from another centre to faciltate , but there are wonderful recommendations of Ruth Pellow . Worth sussing out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacey10 View Post
    Gorgeousgeorge most of the clinics when doing de have you down regulate for the cycle but it seem embryoland often do natural or slightly medicated cycles, I can't see why that should be a problem as I know the down regulated cycles are used to control and time things down precisely, maybe he prefers a more natural cycle.
    on the issue of pgd with de egg, I think if I had my time over again I would consider this if it was a reasonable cost, my donor was 23 but we still managed to get a blighted ovum out of the cycle and they are very common in de cycles as well, and are due to chromosomal reasons. Even young donors produce wonky eggs that's why you generally see up to a 60-70% drop off in the embryos by the time day 5 comes around. Oh and I'm pretty sure penny is more qualified than a nurse, this was discussed at large on the ff uk forum a while ago, I just can't quite remember, and even though she isn't a "fertility specialist dr" she has a great team of fully qualified embryologists and dr's working at the clinic. I do agree regarding a lot of the tests they like you to get but the clinic specialises in hard cases that a lot of other clinics have given up on, I know the clinic that I ended up going to in Czech Republic, once you have had a failed cycle with them, they then produce a long list of things that they want you to do before you go back.
    I went to serum and can't speak highly enough about them. I felt properly cared for and am 30w pregnant with a baby boy. I felt very comfortable with penny.
    The other thing to consider is that serum costs are one off and there is NO extra charge if one transfer fails and you have to go back for further implantation attempts.

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    Regarding my post about clinics, if it has upset people, i am sorry. I was just trying to explain my thought processes and reasoning behind my choice of clinic. Im not trying to say one clinic is better than any other but obviously i had to make a choice and i thought that explaining my reasoning and what i thought and did and why i made that choice, might be helpful for someone else to read about. Im not saying that other people should think the same as me and make the same choices. I found it helpful to read what others said and appreciated them mentioning positives and negatives. Now i kinda feel a bit uncomfortable to discuss different clinics in the open thread. I dont feel the need to defend any clinic over another. I was just trying to share part of my story in the hope it would be of help in some way.

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