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    I agree and disagree with a lot of the posts here. I can see that there are situations where the use of tablets etc are helpful but i also feel that there are situations where children should be encouraged to socialise more (abilities permitting).
    I just wanted to say that I've had (young) adult dinner guests (in early 20s-old enough to know better) come to my house, plug their phones in and think that because they are contributing a comment here and there that they are actively participating in conversation. It's plain rude. I am often the only person in a room NOT on my phone (YES in social settings, not on a train etc) and I'm by no means a social butterfly (anxiety/social disorders).
    Granted that I'm not saying kids who grow up with tablets at a restaurant late at night will turn into these rude adults, and many kids who watch a lot of tv dont need it later in life, but technology addiction at the expense of social etiquette IS real and it is beyond frustrating to deal with as an outsider to it all.
    Maybe it is (sadly) just how the world is now but I'll be damned before I'm a part of what i perceive to be the problem.
    So yes, i understand OPs frustrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally1981 View Post
    Really though, your only other choice is one that will result in your kid feeling like an outcast.

    My husband went to a park the other day and the only other kids there were primary school aged, all sitting under the play equipment playing with their parents' phones. There was one hold out whose child was standing in front of her crying and begging for her phone. The mother ended up giving her the phone. It was clearly either that or they leave.
    Man...where do you live? Ipads at the park instead of playing, and kids being outcasts cause they don't have an ipad? It sounds awful. I've never been in a situation where my kids have felt like outcasts because they don't have a device, nor ever seen a kid on a device in the park. I think it's really sad, and certainly not the norm here.

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    My 13 year old nephew has been brought up on gadgets. He has extremely rude manners. Anybody who comes to visit won't even be greeted let alone looked at.. Grandparents included. Makes me feel like stomping on his ipad at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally1981 View Post
    Really though, your only other choice is one that will result in your kid feeling like an outcast.

    My husband went to a park the other day and the only other kids there were primary school aged, all sitting under the play equipment playing with their parents' phones. There was one hold out whose child was standing in front of her crying and begging for her phone. The mother ended up giving her the phone. It was clearly either that or they leave.
    This image actually made me think of teenagers loitering in a park, not using the equipment but standing around or under it doing their own thing. Teenagers have their own separate loiterey reasonings but if i were at this park I'd have liked for their parents to at least encourage them to sit under a nearby tree rather than the PLAY equipment other kids might want to use..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    Man...where do you live? Ipads at the park instead of playing, and kids being outcasts cause they don't have an ipad? It sounds awful. I've never been in a situation where my kids have felt like outcasts because they don't have a device, nor ever seen a kid on a device in the park. I think it's really sad, and certainly not the norm here.
    So that's not normal? I usually avoid the park when school kids are there. I assumed it would be manic.

    And my memories from school are that any kid that's the odd one out in any situation tends to feel like an outcast.

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    @Sally1981 I have a 7 and nearly 10 year old. We don't allow them to use devices in public places. So parks, restaurants, waiting rooms etc. It's just how we roll and it's always been the way. Yep, there were hard moments but now it's the norm and it's completely doable.

    Disclaimer: I couldn't care less if other people let their kids use devices. As long as no one is getting hurt I literally do not give a toss what others do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally1981 View Post
    So that's not normal? I usually avoid the park when school kids are there. I assumed it would be manic.

    And my memories from school are that any kid that's the odd one out in any situation tends to feel like an outcast.
    No it's not normal for primary aged kids to be on their devices at the park. Not where I live anyway. We have a beautiful park in our neighbourhood. Every day it's full of kids playing on equipment, kids on scooters/bikes/skateboards chasing each other around, there's dogs being walked by it's family, and usually a couple of dogs off lead chasing a ball in a big grassy area...the other big grassy area is usually busy with kids having a soccer game...every day it's nice that's what you see. It's normal to have a backyard not much bigger than a courtyard here, so the park is well utilised.
    My kids don't get a device until they're in year 5. On bring your own device days at school my kids have always had a friend share, and never commented that they felt left out or begged us for an ipad. None of their friends care that we don't have a Wii/x box/etc either. And our kids don't ask for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitterFarts View Post
    My 13 year old nephew has been brought up on gadgets. He has extremely rude manners. Anybody who comes to visit won't even be greeted let alone looked at.. Grandparents included. Makes me feel like stomping on his ipad at times.
    I dare say that's more to do with being a typical teenage boy rather than the gadgets there's been rude teenagers since way before iPads existed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    I don't know that anyone would expect their kids to behave in a restaurant until 10pm 6 nights in a row, though? We wouldn't all go in those circumstances. We'd take turns going, and hire babysitters etc. When our kids were younger we'd do more of a 6pm dinner, and be done at 8.30pm. We'd only stay later if we were somewhere where the kids could run around (like a backyard party etc).
    There are plenty of parents on BH that take their kids out to late night functions, it's part of a family/cultural thing. Babysitters aren't always easy to come by...

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    The term outcast is pretty severe. I wouldn't want to encourage a perception within yourself of your child being an 'outcast' if your child was the only one not with a device. I dont like that line of thinking tbh. And, no, my kids are still not getting an ipad lol. No matter how much they think they want one.

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