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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    It's still time you could be spending bonding with your baby...

    We're all as bad (and as good) as each other!
    That's mummy shaming bs. No one can bond with a newborn for 12 hours a day. I primarily post then so I don't fall asleep to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally1981 View Post
    Wow, that's really offensive. I've always had respect for your posts, even though you seem to rub a lot of people the wrong way. However your absolute misinterpretation of my OP is breathtaking.

    I've now re read it to see if I wasn't clear and I believe I was.

    So to be absolutely crystal clear:

    I don't really care why other people choose to let their kids use iPads. That's their parenting decision. I just wanted to know whether, in the view of other parents, it is inevitable that I was going to have to start introducing this to my son. Because when every other kid at an event has an iPad, we really have no choice but to bring one as well if we want our kid to feel included.

    I'm not going to go into any more detail about that function as it will start to become identifiable. It was a family event, the kids know each other and play together regularly. It was a room at the back of a pub with no access to other patrons.

    I've actually found the different views on this thread interesting. Thank you to everyone else.
    I wasn't (meaning) to refer to your original post specifically. However if you think there's not a collective undertone of judgement in this thread you're kidding yourself. Take it from me - I'm apparently an expert in that field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally1981 View Post
    That's mummy shaming bs. No one can bond with a newborn for 12 hours a day. I primarily post then so I don't fall asleep to be honest.
    Of course I know that. You've missed my point, probably because I wasn't clear enough. And that is that we can all have a variety of valid reasons for using screens. What's important is that we don't restrict our definition of valid so narrowly that it only applies to ourselves.

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    Meh I bought my DD2 an iPad for her first birthday. She kept taking her sisters. Judge away people .

    Yes I take them out in a social setting. They are my last resort for when I can no longer entertain them and want to actually talk to people.

    However I do have the rule they must share it with other kids. Even strangers in a waiting room, they get to watch next to them. Usually it's basically just used as a portable DVD player, but my 4yo does love YouTube.

    I don't have a problem with it. I don't care if anyone else's kids do or don't have one. I'm stoked when they actually sit still long enough to watch something and I can relax a bit. I see it as technology and teaching them new skills which are actually useful.

    As for social skills well DD1 acts like she's 40 so I'm not too worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Of course I know that. You've missed my point, probably because I wasn't clear enough. And that is that we can all have a variety of valid reasons for using screens. What's important is that we don't restrict our definition of valid so narrowly that it only applies to ourselves.
    Good one! (And fair point, too).

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    I recently went to a conference on bonding with babies etc and phones etc was a huge culprits with Facebook etc. so I agree with VP.

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    About what, that we should be lovingly stroking our cherub's foreheads in wonder for the 12 hours a day we are feeding them/putting them to sleep/tending to them? Do books count as distraction? TV? Or it only internet browsing that is not allowed.

    The thread makes me think of parallels of my own childhood. I was (am) a massive bookworm and would have loved to take a book to social outings, to the dinner table, to sports events etc. It's the same really, as being lost in a screen. My parents discouraged me from that distancing of myself from others, and I'm glad they did. At least out of respect to the others present, it's good to "play at being social" when you're out and about.

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    Why exactly does a 3/4/5 year old need their own ipad? Theres a time and a place, they have their uses in school or some limited time to play a game quietly etc. But at a social gathering the children (and adults) should be doing just that - being social. I think its rude. I hate it when anyone just sits around with their head stuck in their phone or ipad or whatever. They are completely removed from reality. I think its sad how much devices have taken over our lives. Just my opinion of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Enough View Post
    Meh I bought my DD2 an iPad for her first birthday. She kept taking her sisters. Judge away people .
    My DS took possession of mine around then. And declares it is 'his' at 3 lol.

    I now have 2 kids. When it was just DS (even now I sometomes do this) I packed a bag of toys including an ipad when we went somewhere. He got distracted and bored quickly ao I could cycle between toys including the ipad - he is better now at 3 though.

    I honestly have no issues with it. If a child had toys that were not an ipad/phone and was playing on their own and did not want to play in a group with others is that also wrong/bad?

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    I've had a quick read through the thread and am kind of doing a big reply all.

    I always have the ipads as a back up in my bag for if things start to go south. We go out to eat a lot (local pubs and cafes) and the girls each have a "going out bag" which only comes out for meals. Has a couple of colouring books, pencil case, reading books etc. Which to me is kind of the same as the iPad, yet the iPad seems more frowned upon? We try and encourage the girls to sit and chat with us but there comes a point where honestly, they get bored and we just want to relax/chat too.

    As far as big social events go, I do use the ipad. We had a friends birthday recently, and we hadn't seen these friends in ages. The little one was in bed early but my oldest was bored and the kids there weren't her friends so she played on her ipad.
    Also, as its been mentioned earlier. It's not like kids can play outside/roam these days. I did as a kid and yeah it was awesome, but the last few weddings we've been too which are kid friendly I was so stressed because the kids were trying to explore in an area where we didn't know many people and you just can't be too safe I don't think.

    My DD1 does know though that I have a blanket rule on ipads and playdates. Hers doesn't go anywhere and I don't like them coming to our house. Otherwise they'd just sit down and play bloody minecraft rather than play outside or get creative.

    So I guess it's a time and a place thing for me.

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