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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    With the examples in the OP, I think the people need to go out and buy themselves a box of bloody tissues. Culture shouldn't be used as an excuse for those with trouble making tendencies to break the law/engage in criminal behavior/be *********.
    I agree with this. She shouldnt have been physically violent.
    Not everyone knows about cultural appropriation either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    But only if you're black? If you're part of a white marginal group that been treated like crap you can't complain because you're white?
    No thats not what i'm saying.
    As an example...
    Irish people were discriminated against.
    They were being discriminated against for being Irish.
    Not for being white.
    They have every right to be upset for being discriminated against for being Irish.

    Does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    No thats not what i'm saying.
    As an example...
    Irish people were discriminated against.
    They were being discriminated against for being Irish.
    Not for being white.
    They have every right to be upset for being discriminated against for being Irish.

    Does that make sense?
    Yes that makes sense.
    I think I put a couple of your posts together and got 1+1=3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    Yes that makes sense.
    I think I put a couple of your posts together and got 1+1=3.
    No worries I've done that before, too

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    Hmmm, it's a tricky one. I have close friends from another culture. We've learned some words from their native language, and laugh at our mispronunciations. We celebrate their cultural festivals with them & dress in their native dress (at their urging and to their delight). We attempt to join in their dances and laugh at ourselves for gettting the moves wrong. We accept their traditional meals & gush over how delicious they are. Some could argue this is CA? I would argue it is a friendship across cultures. How are we to become a global village,how are we going to accept and love and learn from each other, as the HUMAN race, f we cannot accept and learn about each others' culture? I agree that there can be insensitivity based on the years of marginalisation, but surely embracing each others' culture is a way of moving forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Hmmm, it's a tricky one. I have close friends from another culture. We've learned some words from their native language, and laugh at our mispronunciations. We celebrate their cultural festivals with them & dress in their native dress (at their urging and to their delight). We attempt to join in their dances and laugh at ourselves for gettting the moves wrong. We accept their traditional meals & gush over how delicious they are. Some could argue this is CA? I would argue it is a friendship across cultures. How are we to become a global village,how are we going to accept and love and learn from each other, as the HUMAN race, f we cannot accept and learn about each others' culture? I agree that there can be insensitivity based on the years of marginalisation, but surely embracing each others' culture is a way of moving forwards.
    I don't see this as CA at all. What you do with your friends is a beautiful thing. There is a huge difference to embracing another culture and what minorities see as stealing. Take for instance the white Australian guy I saw at the markets selling 'Authentic Native American Headwear'. Or the Asian owned souvenir stores in NZ selling Asian Jade as NZ Pounamu (Jade). Their product is grossly inferior in quality and value but they're cashing in on it.

    I've tried time and time again to eloquently express why, as a minority, people can feel this way but it's too hard. The best I can do is that native peoples the world over have had everything stolen/taken away (land, culture, language ......children). To many, something as simple as a hair style or tattoo is one of very fews thing left that is uniquely theirs to treasure.

    I'm very fortunate to see it from a different perspective because it really consumes the lives of some and yes they do look for opportunities to be offended and highlight 'white privilege'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Hmmm, it's a tricky one. I have close friends from another culture. We've learned some words from their native language, and laugh at our mispronunciations. We celebrate their cultural festivals with them & dress in their native dress (at their urging and to their delight). We attempt to join in their dances and laugh at ourselves for gettting the moves wrong. We accept their traditional meals & gush over how delicious they are. Some could argue this is CA? I would argue it is a friendship across cultures. How are we to become a global village,how are we going to accept and love and learn from each other, as the HUMAN race, f we cannot accept and learn about each others' culture? I agree that there can be insensitivity based on the years of marginalisation, but surely embracing each others' culture is a way of moving forwards.
    Being invited to partake in a culture by people who belong to said culture isn't CA.

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    Haven't read the replies, but just in relation to the incident mentioned in the OP, I have only just watched the footage of that interaction between the white guy with dreads and the African American girl (it was filmed by a bystander) and she was nothing more than a racist bully. She physically grabbed the guy as he tried to walk away and had a sick smirk on her face the entire time she berated him. It was ridiculous and totally unacceptable. Many of the comments were from black African Americans who condemned her behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngaiz View Post
    I don't see this as CA at all. What you do with your friends is a beautiful thing. There is a huge difference to embracing another culture and what minorities see as stealing. Take for instance the white Australian guy I saw at the markets selling 'Authentic Native American Headwear'. Or the Asian owned souvenir stores in NZ selling Asian Jade as NZ Pounamu (Jade). Their product is grossly inferior in quality and value but they're cashing in on it.

    I've tried time and time again to eloquently express why, as a minority, people can feel this way but it's too hard. The best I can do is that native peoples the world over have had everything stolen/taken away (land, culture, language ......children). To many, something as simple as a hair style or tattoo is one of very fews thing left that is uniquely theirs to treasure.

    I'm very fortunate to see it from a different perspective because it really consumes the lives of some and yes they do look for opportunities to be offended and highlight 'white privilege'.
    See that's what I see as CA as well. Thank you for that explanation, it makes sense.

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    haven't read the replies so apologies if this has been mentioned already. unsure whether it qualifies as CA but I can't stand the use of Native American Indian imagery/iconography in our current popular culture. think "cool" wall murals or prints for a little boys room being sold as bed bath & table of adairs. or people dressing up in NAA headdresses as fancy dress costumes. I find this highly offensive.


 

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