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    hateful? not quite, just having a chat. i have no negative feelings towards Trevor and his family. the child is obviously well loved and that's great. why is questioning seen as hateful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    Maybe you should assess your attitude and ask yourself why you are being so hateful about something that has no effect on you whatsoever.
    Hateful? I thought it was more not understanding. Just because someone can't make sense of something (if there ever was a case for some genuine confusion it's this) it doesn't mean they are hating on it.

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    I too was a little confused, though I did jump the gun and read the comments before the article. The baby is obviously well loved and cared for.

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    When people have explained that his gender identity is a man and a person continues to call said man a woman...it is a little hateful. If someone doesnt understand Google is a click away. Why keep calling him a woman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    When people have explained that his gender identity is a man and a person continues to call said man a woman...it is a little hateful. If someone doesnt understand Google is a click away. Why keep calling him a woman?
    Men can't have babies, only women. the poster is confused, not being hateful

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    I don't understand the difference between transgender and intersex. Can anyone explain?

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    Default Well, that opened my eyes

    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    I don't understand the difference between transgender and intersex. Can anyone explain?

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    Intersex people have male and female sex characteristics. A transgender person has the sex characteristics of one gender and identifies as another gender (eg 'man trapped in a woman's body').
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    Oh dear, there is a lot of confusion around transgender people. It's understandable, and I find myself getting confused with headlines like 'transgender man breastfeeds baby'.

    Put simply, he was born with a female body, but knew he identifies as male. It's not something that is 'in their head' or trying to pretend they are something they are not, it's a very real condition. So he transitioned somwhat from a female, to a male, but kept his female parts. It causes a lot of confusion referring as 'he' when talking about female parts, but it is respectful to the person to refer to them as he/she according to the gender they identify with, not with the physical parts they were born with.

    Anyway, good on him for following his own path for child birth, & breastfeeding too!

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    Sexuality and gender orientation isn't binary. Some are born as men, but have the brains of women and therefore identify as such. They are attracted to men, therefore consider themselves straight. Some men feel like men, but are in love with men, making them gay. In this case he had the body parts of a woman but the brain of a man so considers himself, and lives as a man who is gay bc he loves men.

    He is still a man but given he still had female parts, decided to use them. Which makes perfect sense to me bc it bypasses the awful conundrum for 2 gay men - who will carry the baby? Given surrogacy is so rare in oz that's a huge barrier.

    They are clearly great parents and love their son. Which is more than I can say for some hetero 'normal' parents.

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    Default Well, that opened my eyes

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Hateful? I thought it was more not understanding. Just because someone can't make sense of something (if there ever was a case for some genuine confusion it's this) it doesn't mean they are hating on it.
    Actually calling something "the Emperors new clothes" is pretty derisive

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