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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedwith3boys View Post
    Pain stop contains paracetamol and codeine, neither of which cause bleeding so not sure re the increased bleeding risk warning. I would prefer to use this if plain paracetamol wasn't enough than give my child oxycodone which is a highly addictive narcotic, I don't care how small the dose may be or how short a term it is used for. would not give it to my 5yr old!
    Yeah I understand what you're saying. However my DS needed strong pain relief for the first 48 hours. All drugs have their place. So for us I was glad to use it to give him relief. He had no side effects. Each to their own. :-)

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    For those commenting on never using oxycodone. .. used correctly. .. it really helps.
    Especially for kids who feel the pain and can't get it under control.
    Please don't scare others about the use of it. It can be an excellent medicine to alleviate pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedwith3boys View Post
    Pain stop contains paracetamol and codeine, neither of which cause bleeding so not sure re the increased bleeding risk warning. I would prefer to use this if plain paracetamol wasn't enough than give my child oxycodone which is a highly addictive narcotic, I don't care how small the dose may be or how short a term it is used for. would not give it to my 5yr old!
    Read my posts above...no-one said Pain-Stop causes an increased bleeding risk. It is ibuprofen (Nurofen), which is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, which carries a theoretical risk of post-operative bleeding. It has never actually been clinically shown to do so, hence is used quite a bit post-operatively, as it generally provides good analgesia.

    Regarding the oxycodone...please be careful giving advice you are not qualified to give. Yes, oxycodone is an opioid (narcotic). But for short periods, at the correct dose, it provides EXCELLENT post-operative pain relief in many situations, and is used extensively by Surgeons/Anaesthetists. It is not "highly addictive". Are you worried that, after recovering from surgery, your 5-year-old would obtain large quantities of oxycodone illegally and abuse it? See how ridiculous that sounds? And you said you'd rather use Pain-Stop instead...this contains codeine, which IS also an opioid/narcotic.

    Post-operative analgesia (pain relief) should be what we call "balanced". It usually consists of regular paracetamol, and then "as needed" anti-inflammatory such as ibuprofen (Nurofen) or diclofenac (Voltaren), and an opioid (codeine, oxycodone, morphine, etc). Sometimes tramadol (an "opioid-like" drug) is used, but not post-tonsillectomy as it causes vomiting in many patients.

    I would prescribe oxycodone over codeine in most instances, as codeine is VERY constipating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamtam View Post
    For those commenting on never using oxycodone. .. used correctly. .. it really helps.
    Especially for kids who feel the pain and can't get it under control.
    Please don't scare others about the use of it. It can be an excellent medicine to alleviate pain.
    I agree. While 6ish hours post-op DD only needed panadol, when she first came around and the anaesthetic had worn off she was in screaming, writhing pain with a heart rate off the charts! They just kept putting stuff in her drip line until the pain was under control or she was going to injure herself. I have no idea what she got (I'm assuming Peth) but have no doubt it was an opiate and have no issue with that. She needed it, that's all that mattered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedwith3boys View Post
    Pain stop contains paracetamol and codeine, neither of which cause bleeding so not sure re the increased bleeding risk warning. I would prefer to use this if plain paracetamol wasn't enough than give my child oxycodone which is a highly addictive narcotic, I don't care how small the dose may be or how short a term it is used for. would not give it to my 5yr old!
    Just curious have any of your children had their tonsils out? I only ask as everybody else who has commented have been through the experience and provided helpful and appreciated comments. Your comment is however quite judgmental and to be honest not very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Read my posts above...no-one said Pain-Stop causes an increased bleeding risk. It is ibuprofen (Nurofen), which is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, which carries a theoretical risk of post-operative bleeding. It has never actually been clinically shown to do so, hence is used quite a bit post-operatively, as it generally provides good analgesia.

    Regarding the oxycodone...please be careful giving advice you are not qualified to give. Yes, oxycodone is an opioid (narcotic). But for short periods, at the correct dose, it provides EXCELLENT post-operative pain relief in many situations, and is used extensively by Surgeons/Anaesthetists. It is not "highly addictive". Are you worried that, after recovering from surgery, your 5-year-old would obtain large quantities of oxycodone illegally and abuse it? See how ridiculous that sounds? And you said you'd rather use Pain-Stop instead...this contains codeine, which IS also an opioid/narcotic.

    Post-operative analgesia (pain relief) should be what we call "balanced". It usually consists of regular paracetamol, and then "as needed" anti-inflammatory such as ibuprofen (Nurofen) or diclofenac (Voltaren), and an opioid (codeine, oxycodone, morphine, etc). Sometimes tramadol (an "opioid-like" drug) is used, but not post-tonsillectomy is it causes vomiting in many patients.

    I would prescribe oxycodone over codeine in most instances, as codeine is VERY constipating.

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    Thank you! !!!!
    And yes ...we avoid codeine for that reason too as DD has chronic constipation due to low motility. Caused by her syndrome.
    Actually oxycodone is light relief in comparison to some stuff she's had post open heart surgery! !!
    Thank you bringing common sense into this thread!

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    My daughter had her tonsils, adenoids and nose done a few months ago and pain stop was the perfect solution to her pain levels for the first few days and then we just switched to Panadol keep fluids up and make sure they eat, our surgeon said for the week after as long as they could tolerate it then let her eat it.
    You will be surprised how quick they recover, I certainly was

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Read my posts above...no-one said Pain-Stop causes an increased bleeding risk. It is ibuprofen (Nurofen), which is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, which carries a theoretical risk of post-operative bleeding. It has never actually been clinically shown to do so, hence is used quite a bit post-operatively, as it generally provides good analgesia.

    Regarding the oxycodone...please be careful giving advice you are not qualified to give. Yes, oxycodone is an opioid (narcotic). But for short periods, at the correct dose, it provides EXCELLENT post-operative pain relief in many situations, and is used extensively by Surgeons/Anaesthetists. It is not "highly addictive". Are you worried that, after recovering from surgery, your 5-year-old would obtain large quantities of oxycodone illegally and abuse it? See how ridiculous that sounds? And you said you'd rather use Pain-Stop instead...this contains codeine, which IS also an opioid/narcotic.

    Post-operative analgesia (pain relief) should be what we call "balanced". It usually consists of regular paracetamol, and then "as needed" anti-inflammatory such as ibuprofen (Nurofen) or diclofenac (Voltaren), and an opioid (codeine, oxycodone, morphine, etc). Sometimes tramadol (an "opioid-like" drug) is used, but not post-tonsillectomy as it causes vomiting in many patients.

    I would prescribe oxycodone over codeine in most instances, as codeine is VERY constipating.

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    Oxycodone also causes constipation. I am a pharmacy technician, I don't need education from you thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happymum2 View Post
    Just curious have any of your children had their tonsils out? I only ask as everybody else who has commented have been through the experience and provided helpful and appreciated comments. Your comment is however quite judgmental and to be honest not very helpful.
    I have my preferences due to my drug knowledge is all. I'm not being judgemental, I'm stating what I would /n't give to my child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretched View Post
    I agree. While 6ish hours post-op DD only needed panadol, when she first came around and the anaesthetic had worn off she was in screaming, writhing pain with a heart rate off the charts! They just kept putting stuff in her drip line until the pain was under control or she was going to injure herself. I have no idea what she got (I'm assuming Peth) but have no doubt it was an opiate and have no issue with that. She needed it, that's all that mattered.
    Yes this was my DD too. I could hear this sound like an animal being tortured as they led me into recovery and it was her . She was thrashing about inconsolable. Begging for water to try and fix her throat. They didn't want her to have too much in case she threw up. It was horrible. I asked for some ice and she sucked on that while calmed her down a bit then they gave more pain relief and she was nearly back to her old self.

    I thought she would sleep a lot a but she just had little naps then would start chatting again. She was eating ice cream within an hour of waking up.

    So just remember if it's all going bad in recovery it passes quickly!

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