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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    10ish hours is no where near enough for a toddler. Two year olds need 12 hours of sleep. At least.
    Whoops, I meant to quote, not thank.

    I get what you're saying, because I've always encouraged my girls to get as much sleep as possible and such late bedtimes wouldn't fly with me. But surely this isn't a definite? As adults, we require varying amounts of sleeps to function well, so why would children be different?

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    Cannot and will not do cc and this study will not change that. I have horrible sleepers. I haven't had more than 2 hours unbroken sleep in 3 years. Obviously, different families have different needs and pressures, but for me I would rather be a walking, cranky zombie than allow my kids to get that distressed. I also don't think cc would work for my kids. They tend to cry themselves up rather than down if that makes sense.
    Also, like delirium said a cohort of 43??? Pffft. Waste of everyone's time

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    No, the study used controlled crying. The time to wait before going in to re settle is in the original article that I posted.
    I could not see the first article. Was just interesting that different media (the one I posted was American though I think) both call it different things AND take the information from the study and present it differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    I could not see the first article. Was just interesting that different media (the one I posted was American though I think) both call it different things AND take the information from the study and present it differently.
    Many use CC and CIO interchangeably, but when it comes to a study, I think it's important to to use the correct terminology. That's some shoddy journalism when they can't even get the basics right 😑

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    In regards to sleep periods, med pros do recommend 12 hours sleep until around the 2+year mark. I don't think BRV is saying every single child needs that long, of course there are kids that are perfectly happy on 11 or 9. But *most* 2 year olds need that amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    Many use CC and CIO interchangeably, but when it comes to a study, I think it's important to to use the correct terminology. That's some shoddy journalism when they can't even get the basics right 😑
    I totally agree. It just gets confusing and lets be realistic that most people do not go through to the study to look at the info directly - so get info from the article that is... not right! And people get the wrong info!

    But thats a totally totally different topic.

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    Default Controlled Crying study

    I have good sleepers, I put it down to the fact we diagnosed a medical issue ( dairy allergy) so eliminated dairy thus pain and the fact we co sleep. Yes they will stir in the night but this is for a quick feed or comfort cuddle. Because I'm right there they don't actually wake so are able to remain in a dreamy state. As a general rule no other mammal leaves there dependent young

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    For the record when we have had them in separate beds they have fully woken several times

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    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...-finds/7443878

    Another article posted about the study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajimum View Post
    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...-finds/7443878

    Another article posted about the study.
    That schedule That isn't ccing, that's CIO. You don't leave a baby to cry for 30 mins before going in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    That schedule That isn't ccing, that's CIO. You don't leave a baby to cry for 30 mins before going in.
    I think the opening sentence says it all 'Babies left to cry themselves to cry themselves to sleep.....' Straight away that tells me CIO not CC.


 

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