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    This is where I am torn. Had I had 5 embryos left over (rather than 1) I would absoloutely want to be able to choose. Would I terminate a pregnancy just based on sex - never. I guess the differnece between IVF and a viable pregnancy is that one is, and one is a could be. A baby at 10 - 12 weeks is pretty much a full little person vs a bunch of cells - for want of a better description... but thats just imo. I would prefer choice if a couple really wanted it. Pre kids, I probably would have chosen if it was available. Post kids not so sure...

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    If people want to put their bodies through the huge strain of IVF and it is totally self funded ( no Medicare) then whatever.

    Having said that I don't agree with it and wouldn't do it even though we are already doing IVF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinklify View Post
    This was my thoughts and when I spoke to DH he also was a bit speechless.

    For me it would be hard to go through a wanted pregnancy and then terminate due to the gender. I could not cope with that.

    ETA. I actually had no idea this happened.
    It def does happen. I guess though, who's to say what is a good enough reason to terminate a pregnancy. People do it for all sorts of reasons, I'd say gender would probably be low on the list.

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    yes, while I would NEVER abort based on sex I would like to be able to complete my family by giving my two boys a baby sister

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    Yes, i would find it hard to imagine a Dr would agree with a termination based on sex alone, but there are so many other reasons that could be given instead (finance, age, ability to care, partnership breakdown, mental health, dv etc) therefore regardless of the merits of sex selection it can be done in that context fairly "easily". Not that I am suggesting anyone would do so easily... 😏

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    A few years ago I would have been against it but now I'm torn. On one hand I think if someone wants a certain gender let them have it. On the other hand I think why do they want a certain gender and what if the child doesn't live up to their expectations for example if someone wants a boy but then the boy isn't interested in doing boy things or sports and wants to play with dolls. Or if someone wants a girl and she ends up loving everything blue and playing with trucks, would that make a difference to them. And then I think where does it end, will it open the door to selecting eye colour or other features. Are we playing "God" so to speak. Are we messing with nature and it will bite us on the bum one day.
    I'm not comfortable with the idea and I don't think it should be legal as yet but should be openly discussed.
    I do feel concern for people who want a certain gender because then they have certain expectations from that gender and if the child isn't behaving as that gender what happens then...
    In an ideal world people would just be happy with a healthy baby but I do have a little bit of an understanding of wanting a certain gender, I just wouldn't go as far as gender selection.
    As silly as this sounds I believe that in some way there will be consequences to what we are doing with science and technology, like we will reach a point where we have gone too far.
    Anyway this probably makes zero sense.
    Exactly this! You've articulated the concerns I share perfectly.

    To me gender doesn't equal identity or personality so I struggle to understand why people are so invested in it. I really don't mean to sound insensitive as I know there are people out there who experience real gender disappointment. I guess I just wonder whether working through the reasons behind the disappointment might be an option worth considering? I also don't think it's fair to say that if your against gender selection you should be against ivf as well. I think those are two very different issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I can see this as one those issues I do a compete 180 on as a result of Bubhub.

    Yes if it stops people aborting unwanted embryos maybe it should be allowed.
    Not sure it will solve all the problems - People that abort due to gender (non-medical reasons) will find another way to screw people up down the track.

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    I guess it's not always about gender disappointment though. It's more that the technology exists and should people be able to access it. I.e. If they have a batch of embryos should they be able to put back in a certain gender first.

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    For medical reasons yes, but a big no for anything else. Pick a sex when you want a pet, not a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I guess it's not always about gender disappointment though. It's more that the technology exists and should people be able to access it. I.e. If they have a batch of embryos should they be able to put back in a certain gender first.
    If I was able to choose, I would have gone with a boy for #2 straight away. Would I have then used our last embryo? Idk to be totally honest - like I said I am torn but the answer would have probably been no. I am glad I have all of my kids, and feel dd2 was meant to be here, but 3 in an already overpopulated world (and for family dynamic, cost, time, energy etc) was not what I would have chosen - had I had the "choice" upfront. I said previously that I think I agree. I am pretty sure I am now in the yes camp.


 

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