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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Also, I loved those LTD swaddles that you're using at night, but for a bub that young I'd recommend wrapping bub firmly in a cot sheet at night. I think this really helped both my babies get to sleep a little easier and sleep for longer periods.
    That's why I swaddle her with a wrap in the day. I found she was quite jerky and waking herself up. It's helped a bit but not a lot. I'll try doing it at night too. I just thought they were safer because they stop Bub from overheating and obviously no loose sheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&S View Post
    No I don't but I'm running out to grab an oil heater tomorrow with the thermostat. She does have a dummy and I do rock her to sleep. She just won't go down otherwise. I put her in a love to dream swaddle at night and then in the day I swaddle get with a stretchy Muslin. I know I'm probably doing lots of things wrong but I just feel so overwhelmed. Nothing seems to be working but I can't bare to hear her cry.
    Never feel bad about the way you choose to parent. There is no wrong or right way to do it but just different ways. You do whatever works for you, after all you are the one looking after your baby especially in the middle of the night.
    Many would say I do it wrong because its not what they do but I don't really care. I breastfeed my baby to sleep every time she wakes, I co-sleep and I would do all I can to stop her from crying if need be rock/pat ect. This baby, who is one now is my forth baby.

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    I haven't gone through what you have but had a few similar experiences! When DD was born, she was sleeping 8-9 hours every night until she was 3 months old.

    Then she wasn't sleeping during the day and waking up about 2-3 times a night. That lasted about a month.

    At 5 months old, she was waking up every 2 hours all night and only sleeping 20 min at a time during the day. Hubby and I were so exhausted for about 3 weeks.

    Now, at 6.5 months she only wakes up once in the night, sometimes twice.

    She goes down at around 6-630pm and normally doesn't wake up until around 3-330am and then she goes back down until about 630-700am.

    I always breastfeed her back to sleep at night. We have tried to pay and shhh her back to sleep but she screams the house down and if she does manage to fall asleep, she will wake up 10 minutes later and I have to feed her.

    I sometimes have to rock her to sleep, but rarely. She uses a dummy, she gets swaddled for day and night sleeps and always sleeps on her back, she never rolls in her sleep.

    It took us a long time to get used to her routine and to notice her sleepy signs, but we think we have them sorted out now! For example, last night she slept from 7pm-5am, then back to sleep until 7am. She had a one hour nap at around 11am (normally she would go down earlier but we were out and she doesn't sleep much when we are out unless she is exhausted). Then she slept from 2-3pm, then half an hour later she fell asleep on me for an hour. We went out for dinner and she fell asleep on me at around 7pm. She was in bed and self settled by 8pm and is still asleep now.

    You just have to do what works.

    Try feeding her around the 3am mark and feel her skin and if she feels cold then that might be the issue as well. Sometimes when DD wakes up and I feel her skin and it's cold, I add another blanket and it always does the trick.

    Good luck with everything and I hope you get some much needed sleep soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&S View Post
    Download the rain rain app. It's brilliant. I crank up the ocean sounds whenever she sleeps, I don't even think I could sleep without it now.

    I'm trying to do the same and just provide as much opportunity even for a 10 minute nap as possible. She is tired after an hour so it just feels like it is all I do. I spend my day looking at my watch and timing when the next nap is due in case I miss her sleepy signs. That alone is exhausting.

    I have actually been sleeping DD on her left side because of the reflux and nasal congestion. I think it's definitely helped but like you, I'm always on edge. I wish I wasn't so scared and could co sleep the early mornings away. I think she would do better in our bed but I just can't bring myself to do it.
    Sounds like you're doing all you can. It's freaking hard. Just keep trying and make sure you get time out to yourself, have a friend or relative come for a few hours once a week of poss to give you a break (to either catch up on sleep or just get out on your own without Bub). It will get better, just when is the question.

    I was always anti co-sleeping but it got to a point in those earlier weeks (before we had reflux diagnosed etc) where that was the only place I could get him to sleep! I was desperate. I feel more comfortable with it now, but still don't want it long term.

    Have plenty of apps but I am going to buy a purpose-made noise machine like a baby sound spa. There are portable ones for travel/pram too I think my DS needs it. I don't want to rely on my phone, sometimes I need it to use as a phone 😂.

    DS2 is in LTD swaddles I have given up on wrapping, tried so many techniques including double wrapping but he still makes a mess of it he is super strong. He has also started fist sucking to self soothe so at least he can sort-of access his fists through the LTD. I am hoping he gets better at 'finding' his fists the next few weeks and maybe even thumb - that is the ultimate pacifier as he can't lose it!

    Best of luck. 😊

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    My son colic is related to the gas. Painful stomach and thus the crying. He would grunt in the cot from early morning hours and then farted like crazy after. I used to put him on my chest to comfort him and the pressure on his stomach helped. He didn't grow out of the colic because we found out that he has lactose problem at 6months. We started investigating it at 4 months.

    DS wouldn't sleep in his cot during the day. We sent him off to sleep school and didn't work. We let him nap in the bouncer for months and he would only do 30 mins. With a bit of help, he might sleep for another 30 mins. Sleep doesn't come easy for him. He grew out of the catnapping at around 5months and was happy to nap in his cot again. For some reasons, he is always ok to sleep in his cot at night except recently some nights he would only sleep with us (separation anxiety?). While his day sleep has improved, night sleep has gotten worse for us.

    I reckon that babies with sleep problem early on will continue until they somehow grow out of it. It is tough. When we started accepting it, we felt less stress about it. That's based on the stories I heard from the other moms whose babies sleep very well from young age. It is very difficult. Ds is now at daycare and his nap is terrible. I wonder if we should have trained him sleep with some noise in the background. Anyway, hang in there, the catnap might grow out of it. As for night sleep, if he is having a lot of gas, find a good dr who is willing to help you than just telling you colic is only about crying and is normal. Btw, my son is on losec since week 5.

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    @sunnygirl79: I wish my DS uses his thumb rather than his dummy. The sleep school told us the same thing but he prefers his dummy than the thumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbhope View Post
    @sunnygirl79: I wish my DS uses his thumb rather than his dummy. The sleep school told us the same thing but he prefers his dummy than the thumb.
    Unfortunately we can't really train our bubs to thumb suck! My DS1 ditched the dummy for his thumb sometime around 3 months. He is almost 5 and still sucks his thumb at night to get to sleep. Preparing ourselves for some big dental bills in the future 😁. It's not something you can wean them off, it's a pretty hard habit to crack and they need to do it themselves.

    Still not sure what this one will do. He seems less interested in the dummy lately, the only time he sucks it consistently is when going to sleep at night (and still spits it out frequently, so I have to question how effective it is for him...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbhope View Post
    My son colic is related to the gas. Painful stomach and thus the crying. He would grunt in the cot from early morning hours and then farted like crazy after. I used to put him on my chest to comfort him and the pressure on his stomach helped. He didn't grow out of the colic because we found out that he has lactose problem at 6months. We started investigating it at 4 months.

    DS wouldn't sleep in his cot during the day. We sent him off to sleep school and didn't work. We let him nap in the bouncer for months and he would only do 30 mins. With a bit of help, he might sleep for another 30 mins. Sleep doesn't come easy for him. He grew out of the catnapping at around 5months and was happy to nap in his cot again. For some reasons, he is always ok to sleep in his cot at night except recently some nights he would only sleep with us (separation anxiety?). While his day sleep has improved, night sleep has gotten worse for us.

    I reckon that babies with sleep problem early on will continue until they somehow grow out of it. It is tough. When we started accepting it, we felt less stress about it. That's based on the stories I heard from the other moms whose babies sleep very well from young age. It is very difficult. Ds is now at daycare and his nap is terrible. I wonder if we should have trained him sleep with some noise in the background. Anyway, hang in there, the catnap might grow out of it. As for night sleep, if he is having a lot of gas, find a good dr who is willing to help you than just telling you colic is only about crying and is normal. Btw, my son is on losec since week 5.
    This is exactly my DD. she has soooo much gas. She grunts and groans for hours and then she is a fart machine. It looks really painful for her to pass. I give her infacol before feeds and infants friend but it still continues. She rarely burps after a feed. I sit there for over half an hour sometimes in all different positions but she usually doesn't do one. How did you deal with the gas? I think if that improved maybe so would her sleep.

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    @sunnygirl79 haha I have a fist chomper too. She just loves it and it's super cute but my god does she get stinker hands 😷

    I hear you about reclaiming your phone. I actually have it on my iPad now. Let me know if you find a great sound machine, it might be handy to put in the pram to encourage bald in there.

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    Re gas, are u breastfeeding? If u r, eliminating dairy from your diet and see if it helps. I gave up breastfeeding very early on because I had so many things to deal with. It turned out that he had tongue tied (only found out at 4 months of age when we started investigating the gas issue). It explained so much about my trouble with breastfeeding.

    Your DD sounded like mine. My DS was a hard burper too. Infacol helped most of the time. Get a lot Ofhelp if u can. As he grew older, less feed overnight, better for him because he seemed acting up after a night feed. If u r formula feeding, try aptamil allerpro. It makes reflux worse so adding thickener. If that doesn't work, try lactose free. I know a lot of Drs think lactose problem is rare. That's why it isn't recommended from the start. My son is growing well so they dismiss lactose issue. We ignored the advices and gave it a go when allerpro didn't work for him. Lactose Free turned out to be the magic pill for his gas issue. As soon as we put him back to normal formula, the gas problem came back again. By the time we went through 5 specialists since he was 3 months, he was 6 months old. The first paed is all about PURPLE crying and I wish we didn't take no for an answer and waited until 3 months of age. The magic age that they say colic will cure itself. He is also the paed who didn't diagnose his tongue tie at the hospital.


 

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