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    @bbhope

    yes none of my dh sperm were moving. my dr said they were alive but not moving and poor quality.
    im assuming that was the main reason for total fertilization fail, plus my eggs had to be collected before then frozen and unfrozen. The lab told me 9 eggs thawd out but only 2 were good quality, and even still nothing fertilized. I guess the sperm was not strong enough to fuse?

    ive just got high anxiety from dr k comments, she even said "i heard ur eggs were hard to get" and my dr didnt say anything to me about that...i was like huh? what are you on about?
    im waiting for a call back frm prof Illingworth...very unprofessional to talk about me during dh appointment.

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    @bbhope

    yes none of my dh sperm were moving. my dr said they were alive but not moving and poor quality.
    im assuming that was the main reason for total fertilization fail, plus my eggs had to be collected before then frozen and unfrozen. The lab told me 9 eggs thawd out but only 2 were good quality, and even still nothing fertilized. I guess the sperm was not strong enough to fuse?

    ive just got high anxiety from dr k comments, she even said "i heard ur eggs were hard to get" and my dr didnt say anything to me about that...i was like huh? what are you on about?
    im waiting for a call back frm prof Illingworth...very unprofessional to talk about me during dh appointment.

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    sorry my phone went crazy, apologies for the multiple message

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    Edited above. I was too busy feeding the little one.
    @Jojo85: yes, there are many reasons for the unsuccessful cycle in your case. It could be the eggs, could be the sperms. No one can tell. However, everyone will point the fingers at the sperms given the circumstance. I blamed myself a lot for losing the two precious embies but DH thinks that it is likely genetically abnormal. I could certainly understand your feeling right now. It is even harder to get the head around when there were sperms found. My DH is the same. He didn't want to do another surgery for various reasons. I can't blame him. It is a major surgery after all!

    It is really a lottery in this NOA game. We are all given exactly ONE chance. And you know that first round of IVF is always a trial and error on the eggs. We have to beat finding the sperms, good eggs, then fertilisation, pregnancy and then live birth. Everything has to line up perfectly........We didnt' beat the last odd BUT very thankful what we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noori View Post
    Hi dear, am sorry that the fertilisation didn't work out but am sure another great thing is yet to happen so let the hopes always high.

    And sorry that my knowledge is very low that I can't help, but I do have some questions if u don't mind

    - When ur husband did the tese, was he diagnosed with sertoli only cell syndrome?
    - If they found weak sperms in mtese, isn't there any way to strengthen them with supplements and stuff and redo a tese?
    - if the fertilization worked with a weak sperm is it likely to get a special need kid?

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    @Noori. To answer your questions directly.
    -- the diagnosis is correct but whether they can find sperms in mTESE is different. It is very slim chance to find sperms in sertoli cell only syndrome but there is one couple here has the success. EXTREMELY lucky.
    -- as i mentioned, you don't want to repeat doing the surgery. It is very invasive. They cut out the sample during the surgery. Men still need their balls to produce hormone. Most people here stopped at mTESE.
    -- No. That isn't true. But the chance of getting a live birth is very low due to low quality. I asked my FS the number. Out of those lucky ones who have sperms found, only 1 in 10 has a live birth. Like every other pregnancy, there is chance of abnormal baby. In most cases, if there is a genetic problem, the baby might not make it to live birth.

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    @Sariele: officially congrats you here!!!
    @Jojo85: i don't know much about embie donation here. Sariele can probably answer more. My understand is that it is extremely difficult to get embie (and egg) donation here in Australia. In the case of embie donation, both have to be proved infertile. The donors choose the recipient.

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    @bbhope
    Man, that's expensive if we also include travel's cost. But they did actually try to save up and they sold their house so the money won't be an issue if only to be used wisely, I mean choosing the right doctor! Although from what u said now I kinda started to believe that it's not clinician dependent and that SCO is the right diagnosis plus the chance to get sperms in mtese is low..

    I keep giving them high expectations and hope by convincing them to look up an experienced doctor from overseas and redo the examination, I think I should be more realistic even that it hurts! The issue is the same everywhere 😣💔 anyway, they are into doing the mtese overseas, but not sure where yet

    Oh if life was only easier 💔

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    @Noori: if that's the case, I would recommend doing the phone consult with Dr Turek in the US. They do most of the advance science in the US. He seems to be more willing to do the hormone therapy. He will probably persuade them to do the FNA mapping. Then, they have to weight pros and cons in doing it. If there is none in FNA mapping, you know that you don't have to go through mtese. Another dr is Dr. Schelgel (?) in Cornell (look up his website).

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    Hi, new poster to this forum. My DH has NOA is scheduled to have an mtese in the next few months. The cause of the NOA was undescended testicles which were corrected as a child.


    We have one shot at this so obviously we would like try everything we can for a successful outcome. Does anyone have any advice with regards to supplements to take or medication to boost testosterone. DH’s testosterone level is on the very low side of normal.


    I have read on UK forums about Dr Ramsay in the UK prescribing tamoxifen with success without the need for surgery. Does anyone have any experience of this in Australia?
    Last edited by zols; 15-09-2016 at 07:09.

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    Default Azoospermia #3

    Hi zols, sorry to hear this! Hugs. I would like to pm you but can't until u have enough posts.

    Some ladies husband here were put on medication. My DH wasn't. He took menevit supplement. Successful mTESE but no success in live birth.


 

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