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    Hey Folks,

    Thought I would weigh-in, I went to my GP who did a complete Blood Test, Bone Test etc... Since then we have found that I have a High HBA1C Result meaning I have diabetes which leads to an explination for the Low Testosterone 3.9 from 5.7

    I made an appt with the fertility specialist and showed him the Prolactin Levels which are slightly above the normal range and he told me to ignore them its not a tumor.

    My first FSH / T test came back with FSH = 5.9 and T = 5.7
    My 2nd FSH / T test came back with FSH = 7.0 and T = 3.9

    So something is definately a problem in my Testicles.

    He said before going through the pain and anguish of an Biopsy either via knife or needle that he is going to do a Y-Microdeletion test and a CF Carrier test.

    He said he is rather puzzled as I do not have any symptoms of Azoospermia - My Testicles are normal size, correct body hair etc..

    We asked if Diabetes would affect Sperm and he said although testosterone would be affected it would not give cause to Azoo maybe Olgi but not Azoo.

    He said that if the Y-Microdeletion comes back OK then hes 100% certain it would be a blockage. Otherwise he said it depends on what the Deletion was to give chances of success.

    So here me and my partner are waiting for the final test to know if we will ever have kids together.

    Anyone else had much hope with AFZa or Seritoli Syndrome of conception?

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    Jimmy: your GP is wrong about the micro-deletion. If that comes back normal, it doesn't mean that it is 100% blockage. If your CF test comes back positive, then i would say yes. People with CF gene is likely missing the van deferen tube which is a "blockage". A lot of our DH doesn't have micro-deletion and yet has zoospermia.

    Also ask your GP for chromosome karyotyping test. This will test you for klinefelter. This is different than the micro-deletion.

    I don't remember exactly. If you have micro-deletion, it depends on which "arm" is missing. One has a higher chance than the other for finding the sperm.

    Good luck!

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    @bbhope
    what was your husbands inhibin b level? I know he was successful with his mtese, but was curious to know what his level was. My husbands inhibin b level is very low at 12 and his fsh is high at 26 (blood work done last November)

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    His inhibin b level is at the low end of normal. Fsh is at the high end of normal. His azoo is actually late stage of maturation arrest which is unusual. People with this condition are generally due to life style. For him, it is due to previous medical condition. People with his condition will have low count. It is very unfortunate in our case that despite a lucky success. The quality is in question. FS did give us an option of redoing the mtese except DH wouldn't want to do it again with such an invasive procedure and low success rate.

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    @bbhope, i totally understand why your husband wouldn't want to redo it, i know my husband wouldn't.
    I had my appointment with ivfa today, things are moving along however the counselor did not recommend backup nor our dr, so i guess we just have to wait and see.
    For my cycle, ill be out of pocket $4000 after Medicare if u still choose to retrieve eggs either way, however im with hcf full coverage, so what is the difference in payment? im so confused with how this works...:/

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    @Jojo85: that sounds about right for the OOP. I was told that it is full fee even no transfer after EPU, which could happen if all embies don't make it to day 5. Ya, go with whatever you are comfortable with.

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    Private health insurance only
    Covers the hospital fee

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    @Jojo85 it is confusing. Here's a really rough guide to what I get covered these days. (Yours may vary depending on your level of cover.)
    • Doctor appointments and scans - I think I pay about $100 total for the first few in the cycle, Medicare covers the rest of the cost of those
    • Injections etc - we pay about $40 per script (PBS arrangement), usually 4 or 5 scripts each cycle
    • The IVF part of the cycle - Medicare covers roughly two-thirds of the $7k-$8k charge
    • Hospital admission - Private insurance pays all but the excess
    • Doctor in-hospital fees - Medicare covers some, private insurance pays some, I think I paid about $200 last cycle
    • Anaesthetic - Medicare covers some, private insurance pays some, I usually pay around $200
    • Progesterone used beyond the IVF - my private insurance actually pays for some of these when I submit scripts, I pay maybe $30 per box of 15

    So the first IVF cycle of a calendar year is about $4500 out of pocket, and subsequent ones are slightly less as you get more from Medicare and your private cover should take care of hospital admission fees. We also pay $1100 per cycle for our donor. And then your DH will have his costs for hospital, anaesthetic and any charges relating to sperm retrieval and use (we had to pay a fee for a separate specialist, for example, or they might need to do something to the sperm they find before doing IVF with it). If you freeze eggs, sperm or embryos, there will be a storage fee - I think we pay around $280 for each six month period.


    As far as I am aware, at my clinic you do pay the full IVF fee if you retrieve eggs and try to fertilise them but don't get any embryos to transfer. But you don't pay the full IVF fee if your cycle is cancelled prior to egg retrieval.


    If you want exact figures, call your clinic and ask for written information on the fees. You can also get the item codes from them, and by quoting those codes to Medicare or your private health fund, they will tell you what the rebate will be for that procedure.

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    @littlesunflowers thank you for your detailed response, your flow chart does sound accurate, and yes my private only covers hospital fees. i think i might have to cancel my egg retrieval if dh is unsuccessful, it'll cost the same if no embryos are made and it can cost up to $3000 to unfreeze in future. so that means i would have to wait until sperm donor for 2nd round.
    and we cant do backup sperm on the day, as the counsellor will not give us 2nd appointment until after dh surgery (we cant access ds until 2nd session)...geez i really wasnt happy with her, i didnt feel she helped in any way tbh throughout the session...

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    @Jojo85, I'm sorry the counseling session was unhelpful..
    Did they not seem open at all to letting you have donor backup on the day? That is a bit unfair considering that we all have a long time between the Azoo diagnosis and the microTESE, surely we would have thought our decisions out fully during this time..


 

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