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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    But back to topic lol I'm interested in what everyone thinks of Turnbull? Effective or ineffectual? Thoughts?
    He's very good at explaining things and giving presidential-type speeches but he's actually not done anything since winning the leadership. I like him a hell of a lot more than Abbott and I think the majority of Australians feel the same, but he's too progressive for the LNP and I think he's going to be scared to ruffle feathers in the party so won't make the big changes that everyone expected when tony Abbott lost the prime minister spot. Eg same sex marriage, which he has publicly supported, but so far, not a whisper about it.

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    As far as him being effective or not - we will have to see what the budget looks like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    The labor Party has committed to keep gonski funding if they get elected this year, so hopefully this will be enough for LNP to also commit to the final 2 years. It would be political suicide to cut it.
    Yep, I know. Malcolm Turnbull hasn't committed. I doubt he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    But back to topic lol I'm interested in what everyone thinks of Turnbull? Effective or ineffectual? Thoughts?
    I think he's been a huge let down. Being a leftie myself, I really thought he'd move the party more to the centre given his previous views on marriage equality and the environment but he's not done anything impressive at all. Everything is the same as before, just a prettier face at the helm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I think he's been a huge let down. Being a leftie, I really thought he'd move the party more to the centre given his previous views on marriage equality and the environment but he's not done anything impressive at all. Everything is the same as before, just a prettier face at the helm.
    This.
    And a little less "creepy uncle" than the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I think he's been a huge let down. Being a leftie myself, I really thought he'd move the party more to the centre given his previous views on marriage equality and the environment but he's not done anything impressive at all. Everything is the same as before, just a prettier face at the helm.
    Totally agree. I'm a righty but not a conservative righty. I guess on social issues (environment, equality, climate change, immigration) I'm more left, and on economic issues (tax, business, investment) I'm more right leaning. So I really felt like Turnbull was my guy. Hugely disappointed.

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    I'm also hugely disappointed. I was really hoping that if we had to have the Libs, at least Turnbull at the helm would mean a move away from the ultra conservatism of Abbott. But he's done nothing. He hasn't been the great white hope of the left that he would bring the Libs back to the centre and finally bring marriage equality, climate change development. He hasn't been the poster boy of Wowserism that Abbott was. He's just done nothing...

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    Same. Bitterly disappointed with turnbull.

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    I feel like he's purposely keeping his cards close until the budget, election campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    I feel like he's purposely keeping his cards close until the budget, election campaign
    The problem for him, even if it's true, is that a PM is more than someone that delivers a budget.

    I'll be voting Greens this coming election. Obviously not a Turnbull fan, but also disappointed in Shorten. He started out well. His speech is response to that hideous Abbott/Hockey budget was so inspiring. But he's done little as well.

    Mediocrity would be the word that comes to mind for both leaders.


 

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