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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    :0 wow!
    Really? I'm shocked that other teachers don't have these entitlements, but maybe this is just public schools?

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    do you mind me asking which uni you are doing your masters through? Good luck with it & all the best, i hope it turns out really well for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Really? I'm shocked that other teachers don't have these entitlements, but maybe this is just public schools?
    Public school teachers in SA get 16 weeks(?) Paid leave & I think 12 months maternity leave before they must return to their role or resign. This was the situation 'back in my day' (only a couple of years ago) so it is possible it has changed. The best I had ever heard of was 5 years unpaid leave in the Lutheran school system. Most private schools will do 1-2 years unpaid maternity leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Public school teachers in SA get 16 weeks(?) Paid leave & I think 12 months maternity leave before they must return to their role or resign. This was the situation 'back in my day' (only a couple of years ago) so it is possible it has changed. The best I had ever heard of was 5 years unpaid leave in the Lutheran school system. Most private schools will do 1-2 years unpaid maternity leave.
    What?!? In vic we get 16 weeks full pay and then 7 years family leave. We can also negotiate a temporary resumption and go back in s short term capacity without it impacting our family leave. We can negotiate to go back part time at any point and this is in discussion with your principal and they make the decision based on the needs of the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Public school teachers in SA get 16 weeks(?) Paid leave & I think 12 months maternity leave before they must return to their role or resign. This was the situation 'back in my day' (only a couple of years ago) so it is possible it has changed. The best I had ever heard of was 5 years unpaid leave in the Lutheran school system. Most private schools will do 1-2 years unpaid maternity leave.
    We only get 14 weeks full pay or 28 weeks half pay. After that you can take the remainder of the 2 years without pay. But you cannot be forced to work full time whilst your children are not at school.

    I'll have to ask a friend of mine who's about to return from mat leave in a public school in sa. She is only returning 3 days a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Public school teachers in SA get 16 weeks(?) Paid leave & I think 12 months maternity leave before they must return to their role or resign. This was the situation 'back in my day' (only a couple of years ago) so it is possible it has changed. The best I had ever heard of was 5 years unpaid leave in the Lutheran school system. Most private schools will do 1-2 years unpaid maternity leave.
    My previous private school. .. 12 weeks maternity leave full pay. Then up to 12 months unpaid leave. Return full time. No guarantee of part time. Could negotiate another 12 months but they usually made you resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Public school teachers in SA get 16 weeks(?) Paid leave & I think 12 months maternity leave before they must return to their role or resign. This was the situation 'back in my day' (only a couple of years ago) so it is possible it has changed. The best I had ever heard of was 5 years unpaid leave in the Lutheran school system. Most private schools will do 1-2 years unpaid maternity leave.
    For me I had 3 months maternity leave which I took at half pay for 6 months, then took unpaid leave for another 7 (during most of which I received PPL). As a full time permanent I have the right to work any fraction I want until DS begins school without losing my substantive position. Also I got full pay during holidays so took term 4 as leave, then had summer and term 1 holidays at full pay which dragged out my leave days somewhat. Pretty good.

    Nowhere near the same conditions for contract teachers though and those without permanency.

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    Im fully looking for a new job at the moment. I have two kids, the youngest being 11mo.

    I was talking with an ex colleague about his current company as they are getting me in for an interview.

    He straight out told me the job is not a good fit for me since I'm a mum. Said the hours were long etc.

    I was gobsmacked. The kids have a dad too who will pick up the slack when I'm stuck at work.

    The way I handle my hours and work life balance is my issue. I never mention my kids.

    As an aside, a friend of mine just managed to get flexible hours in a high level role and she doesn't have kids. Flexible hours are not just for parents 😊

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    Gosh this thread is depressing, It must be so bloody hard to feel that you've lost your career since having children

    I haven't had that experience at all. My career has been at a bit of standstill but that's been my choice. Balancing ivf with work was hard and then after my first child i came back part time. I've stayed in the same area of my organisation and have turned down opportunities to act or move to different sections for promotions because I prefer the stability of where I am. I can negotiate my hours or days around what I need. Plus I really enjoy the work.

    I don't believe you need to work fulltime to climb the ladder, I work with a lot of part time mums and I think being part time can often make you more efficient, you can't waste any time. I've still been given plenty of career enriching opportunities and though being part time means you can't do everything you want to do, it still works. I guess in comparison my DP has def climbed the ladder the last few years but that's what we decided. I'd only be part time till the kids are in school or beyond.

    I did have my career pretty well established before i had kids though and since it took us a long time to have our first baby, we had plenty of time to plan. So that probably helped.

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    Another angle - I have found, surprisingly so, that since having kids I have lost all career motivation and care factor and find myself slipping into the (perhaps) stereotypical mother role that puts family before career etc. I never ever thought I would be like this in a million years. I was extremely ambitious before kids. My whole outlook has changed, I just don't enjoy working anymore, and lack any sort of ambition. After DS1 I just wanted a job where I could go in, do my thing, get out on time and not do any overtime or extra work activities. Lost any motivation to network etc.
    Now I have had a second child it's even worse. So for me, yes having kids has all but ruined my career.
    I do acknowledge that at some point I will not only have to return to (full time) work, but will probably want to. But it's so hard right now to see that. And I really wish I had a more family friendly, flexible career. Fitting in family life is not something your career counsellor discusses with you at high school - perhaps it should be!

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