tuxcat yep I am 12 and 13 dpo as embies were cavitating morula and 5bb, but on Pregnyl so no POAS. I don't feel any different - maybe a bit emotional, but that might just be because it is the TWT. Another friend has just announced her pregnancy after IVF#1 - I'm happy for them as they've done whole IUI, trying for years with miscarriages etc, but so wish it was our turn. I had tiny bit of brown spotting yesterday and Googling you can get implantation bleeding up to 12dpo and I was getting cramping Wednesday and yesterday. That made me wonder if #2 was doing something, but there were speckles of bright red blood as well and then today I found a shard of a pessary that was like glass, so don't know what to make of that - that irritation may have caused the cramping. Feeling very down about it right now and wondering even if we get PGD normals whether old embies just cannot do it and how many cycles/normals do we transfer before we should give up on my eggs.