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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxcat View Post
    And I guess thats also why the more people that speak openly about their donor conceived babies the better. More people will understand the concept and it will in time become more "normal" and accepted.

    I tell loads of people already! My 2 bosses know (both males, both confused!), my whole family (Mum, Dad, sisters, brother) and two of my girlfriends. I'm stoke to be able to have the option of DE, so I'm hiding nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxcat View Post
    And I guess thats also why the more people that speak openly about their donor conceived babies the better. More people will understand the concept and it will in time become more "normal" and accepted.

    Congrats on your ad @Blossom74 you've been really active in there so I think you'll have PD's in no time! I know that you mean about being impatient and then being overwhelmed that it might actually happen. I hope she's just around the corner

    Hope you get some good news today @amie999
    @Summer I too hope you're ok
    When I was making up the roll call I debated with myself whether to put the OE/ DE info in. For me there was no difference between those doing OE cycles and those using donors in that we should celebrate and commiserate just the same. When you read the posts on here and other threads you certainly realise that people's emotional investment is just the same doing DE cycles. It is definitely not someone else's baby when a second line appears on a POAS or a HCG fails to rise.
    As you said @tuxcat I think there is definitely a benefit to getting the DE stories known and I hope people who are silently reading along and maybe considering DE get the feeling that this option is not second class or in anyway shameful. However I also realise that DE Mumma's are also trailblasers in some sense (it's been around for awhile but is still rare) and not everyone has the emotional strength to face negative reactions. I think this thread has been very supportive of everyone no matter what they decide in relation to tell/ don't tell. So while I would love the wider world to know that DE is just another beautiful way of creating a family I completely understand and support those who don't want to talk openly about it.
    I hope everybody feels free to talk about it here if you can't elsewhere. This is the safest space I have seen so far for all things TTC (I have seen other threads implode on issues like this). From what I read and the support given here I think that will definitely continue.

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    @Vixjc Are you getting close to your beta hcg or are you staying quiet until you have the result?
    Do you mind if I ask you what you did with your estrogen meds to boost your lining? I'm on 6 Progy (2 x 8am, 2 x 2pm, 2 x 8pm). Do you think I should do another 2 vaginally at night? I'm also doing Estraderm patches every 2nd day.
    The extra little bits which might help my lining are Clexane and baby aspirin from cd1. @BlondeinBrisvegas I received my treatment plan, and you were right, 15mg of Pred is the gentle steroid option.

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    It's still alive and fertilized ! One little chance lives to fight another day.
    Thank you so much everyone for all your support xxxx
    I just drive down to Byron where I'm going to sit out the next couple of days.
    Thinking of you all and will catch up on the posts tonight.

    Thank you thank you thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie74 View Post
    Bit of a TMI question for you ladies..

    I'm trying to gauge whether these Trental tablets are having any impact yet on my lining.. AF started Monday, and so far I've had 3 days of good to moderate AF I'd say. Today is day 4 and it's all but gone. It may reappear tomoro day 5 for just a day very lightly. That tends to happen.

    When I was younger AF used to be over about 6 days. It would start, be pretty heavy, then disappear around day 3-4, then come back for 2 days.

    Does anyone mind sharing what their AF is like duration & quantity wise??? I'm just trying to figure out what is normal (ie for a good lining).


    I'm not on that drug but am happy to contribute to the conversation

    I got my period at 13 years old. From day dot I had six day flooding bleeds which is why, consequentially, I went on The Pill at 15. I still got the flooding periods for six days but at least I knew when they were coming.

    It continued this way all through my 20's and into my 30's. I was still on the pill and getting heavy flow for 5 days at 35, but after that they started to peter out.

    I went off The Pill in January of 2015 after some 25 years on it. I got a break-through bleed and then nothing for 2 months. When AF did come back, it was some light brown blood that lasted about 4 days, and that was it.

    Now-a-days, all I get is some brown staining, and really, I don't even need protection for it. A wipe in the bathroom every 2 hours takes care of it. The whole shebang only goes for 2 to 3 days as well.

    My FS never seems concerned about it, but I spoke to my GP about it just last week and he was of the opinion that this is normal for a woman who is 40+ and has never had kids. He said the uterine lining is very much a 'use it or lose it' scenario, and if you've not had a pregnancy by 40 the lining doesn't recognise the need to thicken up each month as we would like, and that it is not unusual to need meds to help make that happen. I found that very interesting and wonder if it has been a similar experience for others on here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amie999 View Post
    It's still alive and fertilized ! One little chance lives to fight another day.
    Thank you so much everyone for all your support xxxx
    I just drive down to Byron where I'm going to sit out the next couple of days.
    Thinking of you all and will catch up on the posts tonight.

    Thank you thank you thank you


    Yay! Go little emby, go!

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    @Charlie74 my AF after I turned 40 was 3 days of moderate and 2 days of spotting. My lining was always around the 9mm mark at the last scan before transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    Now all of a sudden I feel like it's happening so quickly!
    (There is no pleasing some people!)


    Quote Originally Posted by faithandhopellove View Post
    Oh Blossom that just sums up most peoples fears of a DE baby: "It wouldn't really be mine". It's also completely untrue. An egg that is donated by a generous woman still has to be nurtured in a womb (even if it's a surrogate, which is a huge undertaking of love and sacrifice in itself) and then years of care poured into raising a little human being. These eggs would have never had a chance of developing into a life at all unless a beautiful soul had a longing to be a mumma. The DE Bubba's, so deliberately planned and fought for, have to belong to the one who longed for them. Genetics has nothing to do with it.
    Yes. Without our very persistence and sheer will these kids wouldn't be here. Seems more committed than forgetting to use a condom.

    This reminds me when I was talking this stuff through with my counselor she was very reluctant to say 'genetic mother' preferring just 'donor' or 'egg donor' with 'mother' firmly being the woman who raises the child. But when referring to siblings she was quite happy to say 'genetic siblings' I guess that is different to brother or sister. It's all so confusing! Mind you, I think my donor would be horrified to be labelled 'mother' anything, she's admitted she's not terribly maternal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithandhopellove View Post
    When I was making up the roll call I debated with myself whether to put the OE/ DE info in. For me there was no difference between those doing OE cycles and those using donors in that we should celebrate and commiserate just the same. When you read the posts on here and other threads you certainly realise that people's emotional investment is just the same doing DE cycles. It is definitely not someone else's baby when a second line appears on a POAS or a HCG fails to rise.
    As you said @tuxcat I think there is definitely a benefit to getting the DE stories known and I hope people who are silently reading along and maybe considering DE get the feeling that this option is not second class or in anyway shameful. However I also realise that DE Mumma's are also trailblasers in some sense (it's been around for awhile but is still rare) and not everyone has the emotional strength to face negative reactions. I think this thread has been very supportive of everyone no matter what they decide in relation to tell/ don't tell. So while I would love the wider world to know that DE is just another beautiful way of creating a family I completely understand and support those who don't want to talk openly about it.
    I hope everybody feels free to talk about it here if you can't elsewhere. This is the safest space I have seen so far for all things TTC (I have seen other threads implode on issues like this). From what I read and the support given here I think that will definitely continue.
    It's definitely nothing to hide and I have no problem talking about it. In fact my two little DE's measured in today at 2 and 2.1kg each at 32w4d. Got two nice profile shots and they look almost exactly alike - but yep, still a boy and girl These two fiesty little kicking machines wouldn't be here without a.)the BH forums opening my eyes to DE options, b) a very generous CT donor c) asking the right questions (eventually) of the right doctors and d) lots of determination. I can't say for sure, but I suspect it wouldn't feel any different if they were my OE babies - although in that case there would more than likely only be one of them - so bonus ! I can't recommend DE strongly enough for those that are running out of options.
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    @Aimee999 fabulous news on your golden lovely. Fx for a smooth transfer. Is it day3 or day5 transfer or are you hoping to pgd. As for your mum its tough when who is supposed to be your greatest allies becomes your weakest link. Like @greenlady said sometimes you learn what not to do. My mother and I live close in location but i see her maybe 3 times a yr at best. Very different people. Always have been. My mil who is stauch catholic and is funny about ivf comes over 4 months ago to tell me all about immune protocols including intralipids that she had researched and offered to pay bless her. Definitely wasnt expecting that. We are here to support you whenever you need. Good luck.
    @Tinachris thanx for the ginger tip my symptoms have lessoned all by themselves now. Not sure if this is good or bad. Im having a E2 and P4 level bt on monday so i guess ill know then. I hope you're feeling ok today @Blossom74 how exciting to you. Very deserving of a quick pd. @Charlie74 i got af at 9yo yep super frigging early. Always heavy day 2 to 7 then d I sappear for 2days then return for 3. Post 35 af for 3days go away for 2 return for 3 spotting last 2 days really. Post ivf its about the 3 to 5 days moderate flow and spotting. My lining is always great. Even post scratch and flush which caused quite heavy to moderate flow for 7days then light spotting for 3days and lining was 10mm at trigger day. Hope this helps. @Summer where are you lovely. Are you ok? What did fs say. Thinking of you.

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