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    Thanks guys all stuff I know I have tried talking to mum already a few times and she just won't do anything about it. She knows that if she were to make noise the business would shut down and everyone would be out of a job - not just her - and it's not something she is prepared to wear. There is sooooo much she could be shut down for.

    With regard to the boss keeping records - not a chance in hell! She wouldn't have a clue. It really is that bad. Up until recently she asked staff to pay themselves out of the till! She once paid 'some' super to mum but got her account details wrong and so paid it to someone else by mistake. Pretty sure mum hasn't seen that money yet and it's been nearly a year...

    She is just taking advantage of my mums kindness and inability to say no. I do realise this needs to come from mum I guess I was hoping there was a clear path I could direct her on. I think I will print out a copy of fair work conditions from fair work Australia and either mail it to her boss or get mum to post it up at the shop if she agrees. I know her boss would just laugh it off though. Mum mentioned something about a lunch break and got told 'ha ha well I never get lunch breaks!'. This is the mentality of this woman.

    And yes I agree mum just needs to walk out, turn off her phone, stop treating it like its her business. But it's the same thing, if she doesn't do it no one does, the business suffers and everyone loses. I really wish I could get her to apply for other jobs, she just won't. Ditto for joining a union, she would not do that.

    Maybe I apply for another job for her and tell her after the fact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciDahling View Post
    Your mum needs to make sure she is keeping accurate records of the hours she works, tasks she does and responsibilities she has. If she doesn't, it doesn't sound like her boss will be keeping accurate records and if it ends in dispute, her boss may claim she hasn't done the work.
    Fair work may investigate if an employee calls. I don't know though.
    Agree with joining the AWU immediately!
    Her boss is honestly not that smart. Has no idea, no records, is lucky to know what day it is. Staff used to pay themselves out of the till until my mum forced her to hire a bookkeeper and set up a pay system.

    The business would get shut down I am sure. Just need to scare her (boss) somehow so she pulls her socks up.

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    Im a hairdresser myself, firstly I'd definitely go to fair work. I know in qld, fair work are cracking down on hairdresser breaks, length of shifts, pays everything really because hairdressers have been over worked for too many years. For starters we aren't allowed to be rostered on for a 9-9 shift anymore i think its no more than 11 hours including breaks, lunch breaks are a must fair work are really cracking down on that. In our salon lunch must be taken between 12 and 2 busy or not. Your poor mum is being taken advantage of i really feel for her. Definitely go to fair work and have a chat with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnygirl79 View Post
    Her boss is honestly not that smart. Has no idea, no records, is lucky to know what day it is. Staff used to pay themselves out of the till until my mum forced her to hire a bookkeeper and set up a pay system.

    The business would get shut down I am sure. Just need to scare her (boss) somehow so she pulls her socks up.
    is the boss paying the employees' super? threatening to report to the ato should make her sit up and listen. the ato takes non compliance in relation to super very seriously.

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    There are avenues you could explore, but they would probably all involve annoying the business owner, which could make it hard for your mum to keep working there. Also, even if the boss improves, it won't be a sudden and total change. She has a very long way to go before becoming a good boss, and she has to really want to change. Does she really want to improve? I don't get that feeling from your posts.

    If your mum seriously wants to be happier at work, she really needs to move on. It's no good for her to pretend that this business is her responsibility. It isn't. Ask her what's stopping her from leaving. What is she afraid will happen? She can stick around and be a martyr, but it will just run her into the ground, and for not much reward.

    I'm in HR - if she needs help putting a CV together, or other parts of applying for jobs, feel free to PM me. I just hate seeing people stuck like this!

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    Sunnygirl, is your mum getting payment summaries from the boss? Are all the wages being reported? If money is being paid out of the till, I assume there might be some cash-in-hand transactions going on, which would make it difficult for your mum to report unpaid super. Your mum might even get in trouble herself for not declaring all her income. It's a slippery slope. Your mum really needs to find another job. What is her retirement plan? Does she have any super saved up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by witherwings View Post
    Sunnygirl, is your mum getting payment summaries from the boss? Are all the wages being reported? If money is being paid out of the till, I assume there might be some cash-in-hand transactions going on, which would make it difficult for your mum to report unpaid super. Your mum might even get in trouble herself for not declaring all her income. It's a slippery slope. Your mum really needs to find another job. What is her retirement plan? Does she have any super saved up?
    Yes there is a bookkeeper now. I believe she has all the paperwork but it's not really up to me to go into more detail. After being burned previously (and from what I know the ATO were not helpful in recovering he unpaid super from previous employer), mum is at least on top of that. She ensures there are records of everything.
    It's more the work conditions and breaks I am (and she is) concerned about.

    As for super savings and a retirement plan - that's a whole other story, I could almost write a book on. Frustratingly she has very little and my dad isn't much better. But that's a separate issue. Essentially she can not afford to retire. She doesn't have any interest in finding a new job and unfortunately I can't make her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdro View Post
    There are avenues you could explore, but they would probably all involve annoying the business owner, which could make it hard for your mum to keep working there. Also, even if the boss improves, it won't be a sudden and total change. She has a very long way to go before becoming a good boss, and she has to really want to change. Does she really want to improve? I don't get that feeling from your posts.

    If your mum seriously wants to be happier at work, she really needs to move on. It's no good for her to pretend that this business is her responsibility. It isn't. Ask her what's stopping her from leaving. What is she afraid will happen? She can stick around and be a martyr, but it will just run her into the ground, and for not much reward.

    I'm in HR - if she needs help putting a CV together, or other parts of applying for jobs, feel free to PM me. I just hate seeing people stuck like this!
    Thanks that is very kind. She has stubborn old person syndrome (that's what I call it!) and trying to get her to step outside her comfort zone is something I am yet to master. She has no interest in finding another job. So frustrating.

    It's a tough situation. She doesn't want help but clearly needs it. I am going to try talk to a friend of hers that I know she will listen to, she might be able to get through where I can't.

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    Good plan - it's good of you to try to get her to change her mind.

    Try asking her these questions and see if you can budge her thinking:

    What stops her leaving? (Fear is my guess - if she answers with that, ask her what she would do if she wasn't scared.)
    What is the worst that could happen if she just starts looking at other jobs?
    What's the worst that will happen if you stay?

    Good luck!

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    Time for tough love?

    "Mum if you won't do anything about it, stop complaining."

    Sounds, and is, harsh, but really...


 

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