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    I think the mistake people make is thinking people move to private schools because of swimming pools and concert halls. No they don't. In the main it's because (a) the parents were privately educated and want that for their kids (b) they perceive that the education is better or (c) they have had a disappointing experience at their previous school (often state).

    No one I know talks about the fluff around the edges as mattering. Yes it's convenient not to have to drive my kids to many extra curricular sports because they can do them at school but I still have to anyway and it's not a factor in why we go there, or anyone else I know.

    It adds to the amenity of the school. Most state schools in our area barely have room for the classrooms let alone other facilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    If the government didn't find private schools they would have squillions of extra dollars to put into public education and provide a more balanced and fairer education.

    What you're saying then is that it's acceptable that one school gets a multi-million dollar facility whilst another school doesn't have enough funds to ensure the toilets always have soap?
    No that's not what I'm saying.
    There are two options:
    1) government spends the current amount by paying 100% of public students costs and 50% of that rate for each private school student.
    2) government spends significantly more money by paying 0% for private school students and 100% for an increasing number of public school students. Watch the numbers and costs rise as people swap to the public system. Then there will be even less soap for the public students and less remaining frills for the private students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    This makes me angry and sad but at the same time it makes me proud of all the things public schools achieve with much much less than private schools.

    I want to live in a country where education is equitable for all but it never will be.
    I understand where you're coming from and that's how I thought before becoming a parent. Now I'm a parent I value my right to spend money on my child to (try to!) improve their education.

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    And let's not forget that people do send their kids to private schools as some sort of status symbol.

    I just checked the myschool website and apart from publishing NAPLAN results, it has a lot of other information on there. My kids' local public school gets $11923 per child and the local catholic school gets $10898 per child.

    Then an exclusive private school like Pymble Ladies' College gets $25795 per child. But the local high school down the road (Killara) only gets $11691 in comparison. I really don't think that's fair. But again, makes me proud of everything public schools achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    I understand where you're coming from and that's how I thought before becoming a parent. Now I'm a parent I value my right to spend money on my child to (try to!) improve their education.
    I don't believe a private education is better. Time and time again, studies have proven that it is socioeconomic status that gives children an advantage or disadvantage, not the school they attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I don't believe a private education is better. Time and time again, studies have proven that it is socioeconomic status that gives children an advantage or disadvantage, not the school they attend.
    And I don't believe you can make generalisations on either side of the equation.

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    I think the demographic on the forum has really changed over the years to one of more upper middle class/high income families so I know my opinions won't be popular.

    Yes it's true those that use the private system, be it education or health, do take the pressure off the govt purses. I actually don't have an issue with some funding but seriously... SKEGS don't need millions in funding. They just don't given what they charge the parents. All it's doing is increasing the gap between rich and poor, ironically which research from Goneski says has life long benefits or disadvantages depending on whether you attend Sydney Girls Grammar or Blacktown High. I did an assignment on this a while back about this very topic and the rate of funding to these prestigious schools has increased exponentially.

    Ok help fund the catholic school that charges 3k a year in fees. Obviously that wouldn't cover costs to educate each child so top them up. If it say costs 10k a child and the school charges 3k give them 7. The govt are still saving 3. But if SKEGS are charging 40k, they are 30 THOUSAND DOLLARS per child over the basic costs. They should not be given a subsidy. People are going to argue that's not fair, but IMO it is. What isn't fair is households spending a whole base income on one child's education per year, still getting lots of funding while public school can't even afford the most basic items.

    And ironically these same families will complain about the latter families in 20 years on CL, not paying much/any tax, low/non skilled and how they are 'leaners' with Tall Poppy Syndrome. Maybe if some of those funds to these exclusive schools had been redirected to these low SES schools they would be doing better! and statistically that's proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    And let's not forget that people do send their kids to private schools as some sort of status symbol.

    I just checked the myschool website and apart from publishing NAPLAN results, it has a lot of other information on there. My kids' local public school gets $11923 per child and the local catholic school gets $10898 per child.

    Then an exclusive private school like Pymble Ladies' College gets $25795 per child. But the local high school down the road (Killara) only gets $11691 in comparison. I really don't think that's fair. But again, makes me proud of everything public schools achieve.
    Is that public (taxpayer funded) expenditure? Or total costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    And I don't believe you can make generalisations on either side of the equation.
    I don't get what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Is that public (taxpayer funded) expenditure? Or total costs?
    That is the funding they get per student.


 

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