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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    There is a scale for low SES schools. I just checked my kids school and each child gets $11800. We have the largest housing commission section of the community in our zone and a third of the student population is Indigenous.

    In comparison the Catholic primary gets $10900. $900 per student less.

    Our local public high gets $16k, the Catholic high gets $15500. I'm shocked.

    To get 21k per student the needs must be extreme. And let's remember we are still under Gonski funding. Which won't be there much longer.
    Devvo, I just wrote a teply and lost it.

    I did choose the most extreme example of low ses school. In comparison,Ive just checked the local public school, to which I would be zoned i I hadnt chosen private. They also receive total funding of $11,000 (10,850 being from the government and $150 parent contributions). My kids low fee peivate school also have $11,000 per child total funding ($8000 government and $3000 parent contributions). It just reaffirms for me personally that the 'resource' doesnt make the school.

    I also checked the local public and private high school - both have $16,000 total funding per student. The private school receive $8000 government & $8,000 parent fees. The public school receive $15,600 government & $400 parent fees.

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    I don't think anyone is saying resources make a school. We know through research that the high fee schools are not performing better than their public counterparts so the notion more resources create a better school is simply not true.

    I was outlining how our low SES school gets the same govt funding as the catholic school as goes the high schools.

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    For a government school to be getting that much funding (21k per student) must mean it is really low ses.

    The school I work at has 29% indigenous students, 75% of students in the bottom quarter and we got just over $14k per student.

    The point isn't how much Pymble ladies' college receive. They shouldn't be getting anything at all. Let's say if we average the fees from that school then it would be $20k. Multiply that by 2100 students and that is $42,000,000 a year in fees. A school should be able to manage on that annual income alone without over $8,000,000 in government funding. It's just ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    For a government school to be getting that much funding (21k per student) must mean it is really low ses.

    The school I work at has 29% indigenous students, 75% of students in the bottom quarter and we got just over $14k per student.

    The point isn't how much Pymble ladies' college receive. They shouldn't be getting anything at all. Let's say if we average the fees from that school then it would be $20k. Multiply that by 2100 students and that is $42,000,000 a year in fees. A school should be able to manage on that annual income alone without over $8,000,000 in government funding. It's just ludicrous.
    But it really isnt about a schools total income - income PER student is much more relevant. The government contributes $3800 per pymble lady. The government contributes $14,000 per student at your school. Are you suggesting that its unfair that the govt gives anything to pymble students? Even though it is less than a third of what each student receives at your school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    But it really isnt about a schools total income - income PER student is much more relevant. The government contributes $3800 per pymble lady. The government contributes $14,000 per student at your school. Are you suggesting that its unfair that the govt gives anything to pymble students? Even though it is less than a third of what each student receives at your school?
    Yes I am. When your parents can afford $25k in school fees then I really don't think your education should be subsidised by the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Yes I am. When your parents can afford $25k in school fees then I really don't think your education should be subsidised by the government.
    I disagree. All students regardless of the setting should have government funding for teaching and learning. Not the same amount though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I disagree. All students regardless of the setting should have government funding for teaching and learning. Not the same amount though.
    See my above pic

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    See my above pic
    I still think the government should fund all students education at a baseline level. Additional funding should go toward those with the highest need such as low SES and various forms of disadvantage and zero money should go to capital works tiered funding or grants for non government infrastructure.

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