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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Miss Sunshine View Post
    This is advocated by many mchns. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this approach.
    I wish it worked for my dds who only fell asleep with boob

    Please please don't start questioning what you are doing, if it's working then great! Xx
    thanks.

    I'm not questioning what I'm doing as I find it's working. I'm not about to try and change it and make my life harder if it doesn't need to be lol

    this is my baby's natural routine. everything we do is led by him, not enforced by me.

    what other approaches are there? like you said mine is advocated by many mchns - what other approaches are there? I'm genuinely curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    thanks.

    I'm not questioning what I'm doing as I find it's working. I'm not about to try and change it and make my life harder if it doesn't need to be lol

    this is my baby's natural routine. everything we do is led by him, not enforced by me.

    what other approaches are there? like you said mine is advocated by many mchns - what other approaches are there? I'm genuinely curious.
    You asked the question initially which is the only reason people like me have replied. If you are happy with your approach just keep doing it.

    As for other approaches like I said I always fed to sleep. Always until at least 12 weeks but in reality probably 6 months.

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    This is why I really hate labels like CIO etc. Because people become anti CIO/CC and then become anxious that they are possibly inadvertently doing what it is they are against. It's incredibly frustrating and stressful being an already fraught, sleep deprived parent of a new born. @turquoisecoast what you've described is certainly not CIO.

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    I guess my initial question was where does what I do cross over into CIO? is it based on the time a baby is left or is it distinguished by what state the baby is left in (ie crying and distressed versus grizzling and tired).

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    I guess my initial question was where does what I do cross over into CIO? is it based on the time a baby is left or is it distinguished by what state the baby is left in (ie crying and distressed versus grizzling and tired).
    CIO is distressed. Grizzling is different and could *possibly* be CC depending on whether you are specifically training.

    With CIO it would be your baby really crying/screaming (you know the cry I mean!) And just leaving them until they are so tired they fall asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    I guess my initial question was where does what I do cross over into CIO? is it based on the time a baby is left or is it distinguished by what state the baby is left in (ie crying and distressed versus grizzling and tired).
    As far as I know, CIO involves letting the baby do exactly that, Cry It Out. For as long as it takes until they fall asleep, with no parental intervention. It's done with purpose and plan. Not the little grizzly/over tired self settling whinge. I don't think CIO followers go in to resettle, reassure, feed, pat or rock the baby once placed in bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    I guess my initial question was where does what I do cross over into CIO? is it based on the time a baby is left or is it distinguished by what state the baby is left in (ie crying and distressed versus grizzling and tired).
    I think that's the whole problem though and what @Marigold is saying.

    Everyone has a very different idea of what CIO and CC are usually based on their comfort levels.

    FOR ME any level of crying, whinging, grizzling in a 7 week old I would not cope with. I have two sons with very different temperaments and neither fell asleep alone - DS1 would have been 8-9. DS2 is 3.5 and I'll (or DH) be with him as he goes to sleep for as long as he needs.

    Everyone feels differently about this - it's why it's such a difficult question to answer and so controversial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    so your kids just fall asleep silently every time?

    I am not leaving him screaming. he's tired, he's telling me he's ready for a sleep by the way he is crying (which I can distinguish from his hungry/dirty diaper/something is wrong cries). if I know he's tired then what is wrong with putting him down for a nap?
    Yes. I feed them till I wean them. Then I pat/shush/sit/rock/sing/cuddle/hold/lie down with my kids till they are ready to sleep independently without any distress. So between 2-4yo depending on the child.

    So yes, my kids go to bed quietly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia&Hannah View Post
    Yes. I feed them till I wean them. Then I pat/shush/sit/rock/sing/cuddle/hold/lie down with my kids till they are ready to sleep independently without any distress. So between 2-4yo depending on the child.

    So yes, my kids go to bed quietly.
    well clearly you're a far better mother than I could ever hope to be. congratulations. you win. 👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    I think that's the whole problem though and what @Marigold is saying.

    Everyone has a very different idea of what CIO and CC are usually based on their comfort levels.
    FOR ME any level of crying, whinging, grizzling in a 7 week old I would not cope with.
    Same here. One 'waah' even whimpered and I fly to attend to them especially under 6mths old.
    @turquoisecoast. If you are happy and comfortable with your decision that's fine. You might also have an easy baby that is generally calm. Mine aren't. So crying just leads to more distress for both of us and longer/stressful bedtimes.

    I've also have so little faith in the MACH nurses due to the continuing horrid and downright ridiculous advice I've received that I now ignore/avoid them completely.

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