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    Default 60 minutes: court order treatment for child

    Did anyone see 60 minutes tonight?
    Specifically, the story on the parents who refused to allow their child (who has brain cancer) to receive chemo/radiation after surgery to remove the tumour?

    The parents refused treatment despite the fact it would allegedly increase the chance their child would survive from nearly 0 to 50-60%. The tumour started to grow back, they continued to refuse treatment so the doctors successfully took them to court to force treatment on the child.

    What does everyone think?

    Below are some news articles on the case.
    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/pe...06-go05rx.html

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...th-boy/7310614

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    Yes I saw it. Thank goodness those dr's have intervened.

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    Yes. As soon as I saw Mum 'researching' on Google she lost all credibility.

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    I intend to watch it. .but missed the start so I will catch up. Having read the articles etc..plus having a medically complicated child myself I'm really torn over this. ..plus intrigued by doctors intervening too.

    From my personal perspective. ..and experience..when our daughter was given her prenatal diagnosis we were given 3 options... medical termination, palliative surgeries (as you cannot 'fix' her) and the option of no intervention - we would take her home and would not have surgeries and she would pass away in under 3 or 4 months.
    Why are we given that option? Why is it okay for doctors to say that the situation with our daughter is okay for no medical intervention. ..but in this case it isn't?
    Just my beginning thoughts on this matter.

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    Default 60 minutes: court order treatment for child

    I am going to try and word this as delicately as I can because when it comes down to it there's a poor little boy who is sick and probably scared. What a gut wrenching situation to be in - my heart is breaking for the little boy and his family

    I can't help but feel really ****ed off at the parents though. Delaying treatment that increase the chances of their child surviving from 0 to 50-60% just because they couldn't understand how putting 'poisons' in their child's body would help him. And having him take a special juice mix from Asia instead. To me this is a red flag that there is probably something wrong with the parents mentally. From the story I got the impression that the mother was living by an ideology and cause instead of for her child. And the husband was just doing whatever his strong willed wife wanted.

    I get that treatment isn't nice and has side effects. However the parents are using mild and mostly treatable side effects as reason to not give their child treatment that could save his life!!!! Their perspective is severely and weirdly distorted.

    It really ****es me of when ideological bleeters like this think they know better than trained medical professionals. I am ****ed off that their inaction has already reduced the likelihood their child will survive.

    Just want to give the judge a high five at the same time I shake the parents and say "what the heck!!"

    Sorry if this offends anyone. I can't help it - it's how I feel. Did try to keep it relatively tame.

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    I find it really upsetting. This little boy has a 50-60% chance of surviving for five years....not surviving. Just five years. His parents chose quality of life over quantity of life and have bern forced to put their son through gruelling treatment. Brain tumors are unforgiving, and are the leading cause of death in children.
    I can not imagine being forced to put my child through chemo when the outlook is not longetivity of life anyway. From memory, while the type of tumor gives this boy a 50% chance of surviving 5 years, for him personally it was a 10-30% chance. I have a friend who is living with a brain tumor. They gave him a 50% chance of surviving 5 years...it's been 8 months and he has stopped treatment. It's too hard and he has chosen quality over quantity.
    It really upsets me that these parents didn't get to make that choice for their son.
    ETA It also sounds like 60 minutes have done a great job at sensationalising this story by failing to mention that his 50-60% chance of survival was for surviving 5 years, not surviving. So that makes me angry that these parents are being judged by the country and the media are playing in to that. It's just disgusting behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    . From memory, while the type of tumor gives this boy a 50% chance of surviving 5 years, for him personally it was a 10-30% chance. I have a friend who is living with a brain tumor.
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    I thought it was a 50% chance of being alive at the 5 year mark, not 50 % chance of surviving for an extra 5 years full stop?

    If I understood the 60 minutes story correctly they said the survival rate at the 5 year mark for the poor boy was initially 50-60%, however this declined following the parents delaying the initial chemo/radiation after surgery (after which the tumour grew back).

    Sorry about your friend.

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    Default 60 minutes: court order treatment for child

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Did anyone see 60 minutes tonight?
    Specifically, the story on the parents who refused to allow their child (who has brain cancer) to receive chemo/radiation after surgery to remove the tumour?

    The parents refused treatment despite the fact it would allegedly increase the chance their child would survive from nearly 0 to 50-60%. The tumour started to grow back, they continued to refuse treatment so the doctors successfully took them to court to force treatment on the child.

    What does everyone think?

    Below are some news articles on the case.
    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/pe...06-go05rx.html

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-0...th-boy/7310614
    @VicPark the facts as you state them aren't correct. He may not survive. He'll live for another 5 years and be very sick from chemo. They are choosing quality of life over quantity of years.

    Edit to add this is really hard as the longer a cancer patient lives the more advancements there are in the area which may increase their chances of survival.

    I don't know what I'd do to be honest. But no I'm not angry at the parents. I've seen what chemo does to people and it's not nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    ETA It also sounds like 60 minutes have done a great job at sensationalising this story by failing to mention that his 50-60% chance of survival was for surviving 5 years, not surviving. So that makes me angry that these parents are being judged by the country and the media are playing in to that. It's just disgusting behaviour.
    60 minutes wouldn't have been able to hoodwink a judge though. A judge would have been able to see easily through any misrepresentations and distortions. From both sides.

    I agree I don't know all the facts I just find it very difficult to believe that the parents made the best call when both a body of trained medical professionals and a judge disagreed to the point it resulted in parental rights legally being taken away.

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