@Bongley it is a massive flight. I remember it well we want in 2011x The service sounded lovely and like it was a good tribute to your sister in law. @Tahli just curious are your embryos from the same donor? Is that donor proven. What I am thinking ( I may be wrong) is could the embryos be duds? My own embryos always looked perfect grew to day 5 ect but were untested and most likely crap. Could that even happen with donor?