tuxcat I can honestly say these two bubs feel no different to me for not being my eggs. It would be nice to see some of myself but it's a small price to pay to be UTD in the absence of any other solution - if it comes to that. Believe me you get over that bit of sad when you see the BFP if you go with donor eggs in the end. And dont forget about epigenetics. You do have an influence over the bubs. Still, you have one more red hot go in you, so good luck !! It will be here before you know it.