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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    Lol, I was being conservative


    Not long to go now love. How exciting!
    Yep very close now.

    Don't give up hope that you will get here someday too. I had years and years of ttc and being in the deepest pit of despair that I would ever get there, but I am just too stubborn to let this universe frickin win so I perservered and so will you xxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green lady View Post
    Question- does everyone's clinic use IMSI with the ICSI process? I've been reading about it and Monash doesn't seem to use it. PICSI or HAICSI is all they offer (which my FS has told me not to waste my money doing this time as a result of a recent conference he was at). I'm a bit worried about doing the standard ICSI since even with the HAICSI my fert rates have been about 50% twice and once got to 70%.
    @greenlady I hadn't heard of IMSI, but (from googling) it seems like it's just higher magnification and therefore is still very subjective? Personally we've found much better results with PICSI/HA-ICSI. We get a higher fert rate and also more day fives, where sperm is critical to day 3-5 development. When your FS says he heard this stat at a conference, was it from a single study, meta-analysis or Cochrane? Also if there are no MFI, why do ICSI? The thing I like about PICSI is that it brings back natural selection, which ICSI takes away. However if you don't use ICSI then you'll have even more natural selection, which you'd think would be superior?
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    Hi y'all, got back in this morning, thanks for your thoughts, didn't even know about the bombing in brussels until I got a notification from tahli's message a couple of hours ago

    Just battling jet lag and catching up on the thread

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    Oh geez, did anyone listen to or watch Robyn Bailey talking about her son this morning? I am sitting here with tears running down my face - this is why I want a child, to feel this, to do this, to have the experience of being such a proud mother that I can't hold back the tears.

    http://www.mamamia.com.au/robin-bail...appy-birthday/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefsgirl View Post
    Yep very close now.

    Don't give up hope that you will get here someday too. I had years and years of ttc and being in the deepest pit of despair that I would ever get there, but I am just too stubborn to let this universe frickin win so I perservered and so will you xxx
    Exactly @Chiefsgirl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    Hi y'all, got back in this morning, thanks for your thoughts, didn't even know about the bombing in brussels until I got a notification from tahli's message a couple of hours ago

    Just battling jet lag and catching up on the thread

    Am glad you both made it home safely Luv

    Have a good sleep!!!

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    @winsor rip Gracie in your beautiful pot in the sunlight.
    @Rubywoohoo absolutely devastated for you and that result. It's so unfair that we are left waiting and then that call just brings you done with a thump. I hope your appointment sheds some light on the why.
    @Summer I hope you have a lovely night away over the weekend and it's a productive convo with the dp. It's your time!

    The chicken incident and frozen bread debacle made me giggle. It took me back to my fairy light incident when my dp was trying to put them up and I was losing my shiz because he was doing it wrong (obviously). I only remember I was yelling at him and then he said "did you seriously just stomp your feet?" And I at that moment realised steroids make me act like a 3 year old brat.

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    @Summer I haven't listened to it yet. might wait a while, but she's a lovely lady. we worked at the same place (it would have been just prior to her falling pg with her eldest son) and she was good friends with one of my good friends at work

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    @winsor - glad you found a fitting memorial. When my daughter died my sister bought me an olive tee from a company called growing gifts. It's planted in the garden and still going strong 7 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    @greenlady I hadn't heard of IMSI, but (from googling) it seems like it's just higher magnification and therefore is still very subjective? Personally we've found much better results with PICSI/HA-ICSI. We get a higher fert rate and also more day fives, where sperm is critical to day 3-5 development. When your FS says he heard this stat at a conference, was it from a single study, meta-analysis or Cochrane? Also if there are no MFI, why do ICSI? The thing I like about PICSI is that it brings back natural selection, which ICSI takes away. However if you don't use ICSI then you'll have even more natural selection, which you'd think would be superior?
    @Gagingi - I'm not sure what the study was, I will have to ask at my next appointment. I don't have any MFI but was told I had to do ICSI because I was doing PGD ( some technical reason from memory). Since with HAICSI my fert rates have been pretty bad ( cycles 1 and 2 about 40-45% and cycle 3 70% for some reason), I figure if I didn't do ICSI my fert rates would be even worse. It's hard to know as sometimes eggs don't like being injected but in the other hand I've read ICSI is good for older women as the outer shell of the eggs so to speak tends to be tougher.

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