How do you get tested for this @Riaki ?
@ECM1981, good question, I think GM tests the TH1:TH2 (sends to USA, not done in Aus I think..) but not sure about the uterine markers.. I have a phone consult with him mid April so will ask.. Interesting how the techniques are group though (X scratch + HCG (I suspect Neupagen is equivalent) for low activation, and steroids etc for high..
Thats interesting! Dr M has me on steroids and neupogen for my next cycle. How should i direct the question to him, i feel very confused now!
@ECM1981 GM definitely tests all those, do you know what your TH1:TH2 was? Also do you know what your KIR result was? NK cell activity? Did you have any HLA matches?
Hey can you tell me how long it took from blood test to getting results to treatment plan with GM?
Hi @Riaki im not sure if he tested for the TH1 TH2. I will have to email him and ask, same with KIR. I have high nkc in uterus and we have some hla matches. We had our blood tests done in end of jan/beginning of feb and got results anout 2 weeks later then he booked us in for LIT. Our first one was 2 weeks ago and we have our next on 10th April. We are planning a donor egg cycle foe middle of June. I am in Perth so only got to meet Dr M 2 weeks ago but i will ring gwenyth and aak if he tested for those other things. Thanks for letting me know ☺ so many things to test for!!
I might see if he can email me the results
If you're using donor eggs, why would you need LIT? Do they test donor's DQa or HLAs in relation to yours? Confusing my DH DQa is 4.1:4.1 which means his parents shared DQa-3 kids, no MCs ever.. You have to be your own advocate unfortunately-I've just found out I should have been on metformin this entire time due to PCO (without the cysts) 2 heartbreaking years later (I had to pick it up & ASK to be tested myself) so I'm trying to figure out if I even need all the immune stuff I've been on
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Im still using my husbands sperm so thats why we are doing the LIT, my understanding was that my body reacts to his sperm/dna. My perth Dr doesnt think i need LIT but im trying everything so we are giving it a go. We have tried the whole immune protocol 2 times. He said we could use donor sperm too but we only have 1 match so he thinks using dh sperm can still work. Im trying hard to be my own advocate but everytime i jump on the net there is something else that i could test for. Im putting a bit of faith in Dr M too that he is looking after our best interests. He also said i have pco without the cysts. DR M said i have lots of little bits of everything making it hard to fall pregnant. A bit of high nkc, a bit of pco, a bit of dq match and I guess an autoimmune problem. Its confusing. I dont really know what to do anymore, there are so many elements that i dont even know whats wrong. I have given up gluten. I hope that helps too.
Also @Riaki what is the TH 1 TH 2 and KIR tests? What is that short for? I have never seen it written before. Thanks ☺
Also the HLA matches we share are: HLA DQ 2 and HLA DQB1- 02.
I think the hla dqb1 is the one that counts the most in immune reproduction. The other one is a marker for coeliacs, its says that 95% of ppl with coeliacs have either hla dq 2 or 8.
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When you did the two immune protocol, did you do with Dex or Pred? Assuming you did intralipids?Is this the first time you'll be doing Neupagen? Have you done the endometrial scratch? IVIG?
I think this is full form GM tests for:
This site outlines the tests too:
I have no doubt immune treatment is the missing link for so many women just like the uterine profiling study outlines (which was only published this year!), some need down some need up activation, it's just heartbreaking there aren't more definitive tests readily available today & we have to wade through it all ourselves 😞
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