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    Default No ATARS?

    What does everyone think of what this School is doing?

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/sc...26-gn4gk0.html

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    I think it is wonderful. I have significant issues with the current curriculum and the concept of 'teaching to test' - be it naplan testing, ATAR, OP score etc...

    In fact the refusal to determine a child's progress on standardised tests is one of the primary reasons we have decided to send DS2 to a Steiner school.

    If we look overseas to the Nordic countries their model of education has excellent results but involves far less (or no) standardised testing, less time at school etc....

    I accept that for some the current system works well. However it does not work for all. So schools looking outside the square that is the national curriculum and proving alternatives can only be a positive from my perspective.

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    I don't know what an ATAR is. .but seems similar to an OP here QLD.
    And from what I hear OP is gone/going too.
    I'm all for cumulative scores going. ..and students be judged on subjects etc for entrance to the university degree they want.
    Eg...if they want to study music. .then be judged on music subjects and dedication to that.
    Is that what they mean in the article?

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    That sounds about right Tamtam.

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    Yep. My experience. .. back in the 90s put me off overall scores like this.
    I applied to study music at uni. I auditioned. ..sat the their tests and did extremely well. Based on those results I should have been offered a place at the conservatorium or UQ to study music. ..but becsuse of OPs I missed out. By 1 point. My cumulative score took into account my results in biology...which I pretty much sucked at.
    How was biology helping me with studying music?

    So yeah. ..I think uni in some ways should be similar to some in USA. Where you apply to uni. .. and it's based on your grades and dedication to study and letters of reference etc.

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    Yeah I've never liked ATAR like scores. Tbh high school felt like a huge waste of time to me (I went to a very "score" based school).

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    I think it is wonderful. I have significant issues with the current curriculum and the concept of 'teaching to test' - be it naplan testing, ATAR, OP score etc...

    In fact the refusal to determine a child's progress on standardised tests is one of the primary reasons we have decided to send DS2 to a Steiner school.

    If we look overseas to the Nordic countries their model of education has excellent results but involves far less (or no) standardised testing, less time at school etc....

    I accept that for some the current system works well. However it does not work for all. So schools looking outside the square that is the national curriculum and proving alternatives can only be a positive from my perspective.
    I don't have a problem with naplan or the fact that the results can and are being used as a diagnostic tool. What I do have a problem with is myschool website that parents use to determine if they will send their child to a school based on naplan results. I also dislike publishing schools' results and league tables. This is why some school teach to the test, not because of naplan itself.

    My children's school is in the red for most areas but I couldn't care less.

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    I like this idea. I wanted to study science and while I did really well in my science and maths subjects in year 12, my UAI (as it was called back then) was let down by my scores in English and Studies of Religion (which were both compulsory). I ended up getting into my science degree anyway, eventually. I just had to go via an alternative pathway. So the whole UAI/ATAR thing seems pretty useless to me in hindsight. I was so disappointed at the time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamtam View Post
    I don't know what an ATAR is. .but seems similar to an OP here QLD.
    ATAR = Australian Tertiary Admissions Rank (or something like that).

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