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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    I am sure there are women who are using it for this purpose - then call it what it is - prostitution. I don't have a problem with prostitution.

    What is wrong with it (being deliberate sugar daddy relationships) is that it is a system that objectifies women. For every women who is deliberately using the system to get ahead, who sees it as empowered there are many many more women who do this through lacking any sense of value than themselves as a s.ex object.

    If you (general you not any one specifically including the quotes post) think every man who is a 'sugar daddy' is just looking for companionship then people are kidding themselves.
    I'd disagree that there are many, many more women in the latter category. I'd even disagree that there are just as many.
    Maybe we're from different generations, or have had different experiences, but I know plenty of females that have or are using their body, in one way or another, to make money. Every single one of them are intelligent and view their body as *another* way to make money, not the *only* way.

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    I think age and experience definitely has an impact on a person's view of this 😄

    Part of it for me is raising a son to adulthood (21 in April) and seeing the attitudes towards women and s.exuality from him and his friends (male and female).

    Part is watching my 17 yro niece turn into a young women who despite being raised to believe differently and being highly intelligent, views her face/body/s.exuality as assets (her words not mine) to be used to get ahead while they last. Is that empowering? IMO no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    I think age and experience definitely has an impact on a person's view of this ������

    Part of it for me is raising a son to adulthood (21 in April) and seeing the attitudes towards women and s.exuality from him and his friends (male and female).

    Part is watching my 17 yro niece turn into a young women who despite being raised to believe differently and being highly intelligent, views her face/body/s.exuality as assets (her words not mine) to be used to get ahead while they last. Is that empowering? IMO no.
    We all use our bodies in every job there is. Cleaners use their bodies to clean, bricklayers use their bodies to lay bricks, some people use their bodies for s.exual purposes. What isn't empowering about a woman choosing what she wants to do with her own body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnielici View Post
    I think age and experience definitely has an impact on a person's view of this 😄

    Part of it for me is raising a son to adulthood (21 in April) and seeing the attitudes towards women and s.exuality from him and his friends (male and female).

    Part is watching my 17 yro niece turn into a young women who despite being raised to believe differently and being highly intelligent, views her face/body/s.exuality as assets (her words not mine) to be used to get ahead while they last. Is that empowering? IMO no.
    See, I think it can be empowering. I think it would take a great deal of confidence to do it.
    Mind you, I don't think self respect is defined by sex.

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    @hopeful1986 and @atomicmama we will definitely have to agree to disagree 😊

    It's given me some food for thought however as to why I view this quite differently from a number of posters in this thread - always a good thing!

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    People that say good for them ,it's empowering etc etc.

    Would you want your children involved in this? Would you want your spouse making a quick extra buck doing this? Your mum? Your dad? Would you be happy he is being a sugar daddy?

    It's always fine with some people until it's in their back yard. Personally I could NEVER pay someone to have sex with me/ hang out with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    See, I think it can be empowering. I think it would take a great deal of confidence to do it.
    Mind you, I don't think self respect is defined by sex.
    I like this idea in theory. Unfortunately the vast majority of women who do sell their bodies don't come put the other end feeling empowered. Time and time again the stories are of psychological damage and drug addiction.

    We don't live in a world where this is accepted, plain and simple. And it takes a HELL of a lot of guts to go against deeply ingrained societal beliefs around these issues.

    And yep if I found out my daughter was doing this I would not be proud or impressed.

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    Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

    I totally considered being an 'escort' a few years ago.

    Not all of them have sex. Many actually do not- they provide company and dates, especially to corporate events.

    And those that do provide sex, have agreed to it.

    It's a job, like everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyflower View Post
    People that say good for them ,it's empowering etc etc.

    Would you want your children involved in this? Would you want your spouse making a quick extra buck doing this? Your mum? Your dad? Would you be happy he is being a sugar daddy?

    It's always fine with some people until it's in their back yard. Personally I could NEVER pay someone to have sex with me/ hang out with me.
    My spouse? No...because I don't want them doing that with anyone else.
    My children? With the way the industry currently is? No. But if they could do it 100 % safely and it made them happy, then that's what I care about. What my other family members choose to do with their own lives is none of my business. I love my family for who they are, not because of the job they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I like this idea in theory. Unfortunately the vast majority of women who do sell their bodies don't come put the other end feeling empowered. Time and time again the stories are of psychological damage and drug addiction.

    We don't live in a world where this is accepted, plain and simple. And it takes a HELL of a lot of guts to go against deeply ingrained societal beliefs around these issues.

    And yep if I found out my daughter was doing this I would not be proud or impressed.
    This. I also think a lot, not all do it because they have been abused in the past. And a lot have abusive experiences whilst doing it.

    I actually feel sorry for people that have to do this. I do not judge them in any way. Sometimes people make desperate choices in desperate times.


 
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