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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    Like I said in the rest of my post and other posts, the tether has been found to be unnecessary when a seat had other safety features (like the leg stabilizer). Obviously many Australians can't be arsed either, from earlier comments in this thread that rearfacing is too hard with a tether.

    Eta: there are also some articles that state the tether can be unsafe when rearfacing if not installed correctly. And that statement also said that the Australian tether is often too short for American models of cars. Not just 'can't be arsed.'
    I suppose I would like to see an article where the manufacturer is making changes based on safety issues and improvements instead of parents who can't be ar$ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I suppose I would like to see an article where the manufacturer is making changes based on safety issues and improvements instead of parents who can't be ar$ed.
    Britax seats have the rebound bar and leg stabilizer, the tether was an extra that parents could have if they wanted but don't 'need.' Not understanding why that is so hard to understand. Plenty of articles out there for you to find yourself.

    Eta: many cars in the UK don't even have a place for the tether.
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    Back onto the original topic, I'm all for extended RF. I make large children and made it to 18m rear facing in a neon. I contemplated purchasing a new seat that could extend longer, but i honestly couldn't get her INTO the car RF. Even with the tether strap slackened off, it's a small space. Not sure if it's just my car design? (A Volvo XC60). I was shoving her in and always bumping her head. Is there a trick to getting them in?

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    We kept both our kids rear facing till nearly 12mths much to the merriment of most of our friends. But even when they turned forward facing we still had to use the tether strap and i made sure I picked a car where it was behind the seat not on the roof as that bugged me. They both stayed in them till they reached the top markers which was a bit sooner as the laws changed and our seats didn't extend as much as the new ones so they went into hi liner boosters which DS 9 is now out of as he grew past the makers and I couldn't extend the top any further because of the roof of the car. I would have loved isofix as my car has the points but obviously we can't.

    We got all our car seats fitted and DH got given a lesson on how to do it. We didn't move seats unless we absolutely had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Enough View Post
    Back onto the original topic, I'm all for extended RF. I make large children and made it to 18m rear facing in a neon. I contemplated purchasing a new seat that could extend longer, but i honestly couldn't get her INTO the car RF. Even with the tether strap slackened off, it's a small space. Not sure if it's just my car design? (A Volvo XC60). I was shoving her in and always bumping her head. Is there a trick to getting them in?
    I sort of cradle my 2 year old like a baby to get him in. It can be a challenge in smaller/compact cars that don't leave a lot of room but we're used to it. Luckily ds isn't too squirmy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I have never had to regularly move my children's restraints and if I did, I would buy an extra seat and put it in the car that needed it.

    Might not be "practical" but when it comes to my children's safety, I do what is the safest. I don't feel confident installing the seats myself and neither does my husband so we go to an approved fitter listed on RMS website.

    The RACV states that 70% are not installed correctly and that this is the case because majority of parents think they can do it themselves when they can't. It is a skilled task.

    So if you're one of the parents who is qualified to fit your child's seat or you get it checked by an approved fitter then your restraint is probably one of the 30% of seats that are installed correctly and my post doesn't apply to you!

    However, I do find it interesting that people are going on about their $700 seat with extra safety features etc. when it would be useless if it's not installed properly.
    I think the issue is not just the initial installation but the ongoing use of the seat after installation that people often get wrong. Eg wrong shoulder height, straps not tight enough, front seat pushed hard up against the rf seat. These issues can occur after the seat had been installed by a professional fitter. I've actually seen on two occasions seats that were installed by 'pros' that had the front seat jammed up hard against the rf seat and apparently the pros told their customers to ensure it was always like that! Sigh. I tired to tell a friend that it was wrong but was shot down because the pro installed it and therefore I must be the one in the wrong...
    For those who do get theirs seats fitted by a professional I think it wise to also read manual to double check themselves and also be familiar with the general use of the seat by reading the manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Enough View Post
    Back onto the original topic, I'm all for extended RF. I make large children and made it to 18m rear facing in a neon. I contemplated purchasing a new seat that could extend longer, but i honestly couldn't get her INTO the car RF. Even with the tether strap slackened off, it's a small space. Not sure if it's just my car design? (A Volvo XC60). I was shoving her in and always bumping her head. Is there a trick to getting them in?
    I lot of people get them to climb in themselves at that age. My boy was small and I had and SUV so that made it easier.

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    In regards to seats being incorrectly installed and HG comments regarding her seat being straight forward using isofix, here's a link to a study showing that isofix does reduce the likelihood of the seat being incorrectly installed.
    Whilst other studies may show the safety of isofix seats are the same as a properly fitted seat with a seat belt, the error associated with incorrect fitting is reduced.
    http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/esv...ESV-000495.pdf

    For those who don't want to read the whole article (it is 12 pages) the take home message for me was that when they asked people to install an isofix seat 97% installed it correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nh2489 View Post
    In regards to seats being incorrectly installed and HG comments regarding her seat being straight forward using isofix, here's a link to a study showing that isofix does reduce the likelihood of the seat being incorrectly installed.
    Whilst other studies may show the safety of isofix seats are the same as a properly fitted seat with a seat belt, the error associated with incorrect fitting is reduced.
    http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/esv...ESV-000495.pdf

    For those who don't want to read the whole article (it is 12 pages) the take home message for me was that when they asked people to install an isofix seat 97% installed it correctly.
    This is why I have isofix seats.

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    I did a bit of googling about the actual statistic of 70% of seats being installed incorrectly. The racv and ses had a day in metro Melbourne at some of the major shopping centres and advertised free checking of child restraints. So it's 70% of people who turned up to that event. I am suspecting it's not a true reflection correct usage rates due the demographics of surrounding areas being different compared to all of Victoria.

    Some seats are easier to install correctly than others, and have features that promote safety. The new infa grandeur sounds great as it's got high rf markers, covers can be taken off when still installed I think, doesn't need to be taken out to change strap height, and has straps that are less likely to twist. Hopefully these features will start being in demand and become more common, and also the appeal of not having to shop for another seat for a long time is very appealing for many that don't consider a lot of the safety features

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