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    They all pass the same safety standards. So a rear facing babylove seat is still safer than another brand that is forward facing.

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    Ok so I wish I knew how to paste pictures on here because I just google imaged extended rear facing car seating, and I have to say from ages 2 + it does by instill safety to me at all!

    So kids who have long legs just squish them up the seat - plus if you have more than one child in a rear facing seat, it would be even more 'squishy' - I fully support rear facing whilst their feet can comfortably dangle down like that picture of your little one Holly, but after that - it doesn't look safe at all

    There was one picture of a mini van, where the seat seems to be positioned a lot more closer to the seat in front and the feet can dangle down comfortably, as there is ample room but most cars are not like this.

    I feel like I need to preface this post with once again not trying to be argumentative - just quite interested - and a little floored that people would want 8 year olds to be ERF
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    Why aren't they safe if they're frog legged? I don't understand why you think that would be dangerous? If you have a collision that is forceful enough that your child's legs could be harmed then what would the effect be on their tiny little necks if they were forward facing?

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    It's actually completely false that having their legs frog-legged or bent or against the seat is more dangerous, or dangerous at all. Frog legged is actually a natural position for young children. I'll post more links but www.rearfacingtoddlers.com address this.

    Eta: keep in mind that photo I posted is a capsule, his ERF seat is obviously larger.

    I get you're not trying to be argumentative, but there's quiet a few links throughout the thread to read regarding why it is safer.
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    'Where Do Older Children Put Their Legs?

    Most extended rear facing car seats are installed with a bit of a gap between the base of the seat and the back rest of the vehicle seat. How big that gap is depends on the space between the car's back and front seats. But even when there is not enough space for a large gap, children are happy to sit with their legs crossed or bent.

    But Surely That Must Be Uncomfortable?

    No, it isn't. Children's skeletons are still largely made of cartilage, and they are far more flexible than adults. Small children naturally sit with their legs bent, and when they are very little this is actually better for the development of their hips and spine. Even older children don't experience any discomfort when they sit like this.
    Won't They Break Their Legs In A Crash?

    You often hear parents of rear facing children say that they would rather their children broke their legs instead of their neck. After all, broken legs can be fixed. But the reality is that there are no known cases of a rear facing child breaking their legs. It is however quite a common injury in forward facing car crash victims.'

    http://www.rearfacingtoddlers.com/faq.html

    That is a simple explanation, I'm sure you could find more research if you google.

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    I was in Canada 7 years ago when DD was a bub. The law there was rear face til 12m AND 10kg, which is what we did (both happened at once for her).

    Capsules were very popular there as you could get covers that just left a smallish opening. They made it a lot easier to get little ones in and out of the car in sub-zero temperatures.

    I think the RF laws there, plus the popularity of capsules meant a lot were manufactured to fit bigger babies. The capsule I got DS here he outgrew pretty quickly. It was his shoulders that were too wide making it very uncomfortable.

    It was an adjustment for me over there seeing toddlers being strapped into capsules cos over here you only see tiny babies in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amyd View Post
    Out of interest why don't you like Babylove?
    I'm not very fond of babylove, or mothers choice, I just don't think they look very safe, especially compared to other manufacturers like safe n sound, and infasecure. I had a mothers choice seat and it was a complete waste of money. Really low markers and guaranteed head slump forward facing, it was replaced by an infasecure neon quite quickly. I have quite a dislike of any seat with '2 recline options forward facing' as they seem badly designed.

    I had a quick google of the cheaper end ERF seats and the kompressor is the cheapest I would consider, at $430 without isofix means I could only buy 1 and I would spend my life swapping it between cars. Having multiple recline positions forward facing is important to me due to the head slump issue. I've spent hundreds on car seats so far to keep my daughter as safe as possible, and just wish there was more options with ERF, and the seats cheaper. I reckon once the seats are in the big stores at lowing prices, it will be a lot more accepted

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzm View Post
    I'm not very fond of babylove, or mothers choice, I just don't think they look very safe, especially compared to other manufacturers like safe n sound, and infasecure. I had a mothers choice seat and it was a complete waste of money. Really low markers and guaranteed head slump forward facing, it was replaced by an infasecure neon quite quickly. I have quite a dislike of any seat with '2 recline options forward facing' as they seem badly designed.

    I had a quick google of the cheaper end ERF seats and the kompressor is the cheapest I would consider, at $430 without isofix means I could only buy 1 and I would spend my life swapping it between cars. Having multiple recline positions forward facing is important to me due to the head slump issue. I've spent hundreds on car seats so far to keep my daughter as safe as possible, and just wish there was more options with ERF, and the seats cheaper. I reckon once the seats are in the big stores at lowing prices, it will be a lot more accepted
    Definitely agree with you about the recline. I have a hipod and a mothers choice with 2 ff recline positions and they aren't my favourite. The mothers choice is an older one and has a very short shell. I now have a sns with 2 ff recline positions and I'm interested to see what it's like once I turn it.

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    OK...I have a question for you girls who seem to know alot about car-seats! (Nothing to do with ERF though)...

    My 2-year-old has worked out how to undo her seat-belt, and treats it as a game. She's already been told off sternly a few times, but the little turd keeps doing it!!

    It is a Safe 'n' Sound Maxi-Rider (I think). Is there anything I can buy to attach to prevent her doing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    OK...I have a question for you girls who seem to know alot about car-seats! (Nothing to do with ERF though)...

    My 2-year-old has worked out how to undo her seat-belt, and treats it as a game. She's already been told off sternly a few times, but the little turd keeps doing it!!

    It is a Safe 'n' Sound Maxi-Rider (I think). Is there anything I can buy to attach to prevent her doing this?

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    Isn't there something called a Houdini strap or buckle that you can buy that is meant to prevent this? Or maybe that's just for wiggling arms out? I only remember hearing about it because Tizzie Hall got in trouble for recommending using them over properly buckling your baby in so that you don't wake them. ☺️

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