First time posting a thread, long time reader! My DH and I have been TTC for 14months now we are in our late 20's and healthy. We had a relatively relaxed approach for the first 6 months, we then experienced a CP on month 7 which threw me out for 2 months but we are now back on the band wagon and going at it like never before (pun intended) . We visited a FS about 3 months ago and 'everything' came back normal, he wanted to go down the IVF track but we aren't ready for that and believe we can achieve this on our own! I started using OPK's last month and noticed I had quite a surge around CD21 of a 28 day cycle, which made me wonder if I was O'ing quite late in the month with a short luteal phase all this time. So I decided to start on Vitex this month (2000mg a day) and noticed a OPK surge on CD13 (yay) but it was never darker than the control line. 6 days later I have had a consistent temp increase of .4. So It seems as though I ovulated around CD13 based on my temps but nothing else correlates. My CM was watery, my fern microscope didn't show anything so I am so confused. I'm sorry for the novel! But would love to know if anyone else has experienced this?