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    Quote Originally Posted by Green lady View Post
    Got my PGD results. Both tested embryos abnormal.
    Oh sweetie I'm so sorry. That's really awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer View Post
    Thanks @calypso75, @infinity888 & @Charlie74 - I'm doing OK, just a mini-meltdown and now I'm back to thinking about the plan and what we'll do next. I think I'll see my FS next week if I can and talk to him about the microlut for seven days and then see about a new cycle - the timing would fit in-between travel through March, so that could definitely work. I'll have to find out the exact costs and talk to DH - it might not be that much as I've never gotten to EPU before as I just don't make more than one follicle, but I feel like I have to have one more go before I turn 45. And now that I'm much healthier and have been off all meds for seven months, maybe a low dose cycle might do the trick. It's worth a go and if not, then I can rule a line under that and move to DE.
    @Summer I don't know your history, but I came across a bunch of articles the other day that said low-dose and gently easing the eggs along is a fallacy, that has not been scientifically verified. The criticism being that it leads to less eggs and more cycles, therefore greater strain on woman and higher profits for clinics (as extra drugs are PBS). I was researching low LH whilst stimming. They were peer-reviewed articles. I've discussed it with Wazza numerous times and am usually on 450-600 FSH. I am a bit of a go hard or go home kinda girl though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    The nurse said having more progesterone can't hurt so go home tonight and pop a couple in. So why the heck didn't she agree to let me do that after transfer then? I feel a huge ball of rage in my tummy and a sadness that is just so immense.
    @Caesardust I'm sorry to hear how dejected you feel. Have you thought about putting in a complaint? The 7.30 Report on IVF talked about patients complaining to the ACCC about clinics needing to be more accountable, but think also complaining to clinics themselves is useful.

    I know I'll be complaining to QFG about the lack of space in the embryscope given it's been unavailable for our last 2 cycles.

    We spend a fortune on IVF and we need good advice.

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    Hi lovely Ladies - thank you for all your well wishes with EPU. It's been moved to Friday. I've been under the weather and have just read up on all the posts. I'll try to respond more tomorrow after EPU... I'm a bit nervous as it looks like I've got 20+ eggies there and my cycle was almost cancelled due to OHSS risk. I ended up in hospital after last EPU, so we're a bit nervous.

    Thinking of you all - glad for the positives, but very sad for the lows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    @Caesardust I'm sorry to hear how dejected you feel. Have you thought about putting in a complaint? The 7.30 Report on IVF talked about patients complaining to the ACCC about clinics needing to be more accountable, but think also complaining to clinics themselves is useful.

    I know I'll be complaining to QFG about the lack of space in the embryscope given it's been unavailable for our last 2 cycles.

    We spend a fortune on IVF and we need good advice.
    @Gagini I actually have considered it over the past few days but I'm not sure what it would do or if I have the energy for the fight. To give you an idea when I first went to that clinic I had previously went to start with another one so had done all the prelim testing already. So my current clinic just took all that, we did the counselling, they took our money and off we went. They have not once asked for a test to see what's going wrong. Privately through other FS clinics on the side I requested a scratch, a biopsy for nkc, mthfr tests, a range of other vitamin level tests, dq alpha match and intralipids. Not once has a FS at my clinic offered any advice other than you just need to keep trying. Everything looks good it's just you haven't done enough cycles. That's when I've even seen a FS which has been 3 times in 6 cycles. All contact is via the nurse on the phone and I deal with a few of those too. Some lovely and competent and some not as much so. They are hamstrung by the FS and it depends on the day whose there and picks up my file as to what will happen next. I am leaving the clinic now and I'm sure they'll be happy as they obviously don't know how to help me. I don't want my complaint to result in them offering me another free cycle as that's what happened with this one and here I am still not pregnant and still with no answers as to why. I don't know what else they could do? I am usually a fighter but is it worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    @Summer I don't know your history, but I came across a bunch of articles the other day that said low-dose and gently easing the eggs along is a fallacy, that has not been scientifically verified. The criticism being that it leads to less eggs and more cycles, therefore greater strain on woman and higher profits for clinics (as extra drugs are PBS). I was researching low LH whilst stimming. They were peer-reviewed articles. I've discussed it with Wazza numerous times and am usually on 450-600 FSH. I am a bit of a go hard or go home kinda girl though.
    that's interesting about the low dose. I haven't heard that before. Summer if anyone will be able to get 44yo eggs to work it will be you since your great response with natural cycles. fwiw my gonal-f ranged from 375, 300, 350 with 350 as my last cycle bfp/cp and 375 for cycles 1-3 (frostie). I wonder how I would have gone then at higher dose. what doses have you used previously? maybe the older eggs 43+ respond to higher doses (though I'm sure each person is different)

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    good luck for epu today @Gagingi. I hope ohss doesn't kick in and you get lots of good eggs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    @Gagini I actually have considered it over the past few days but I'm not sure what it would do or if I have the energy for the fight. To give you an idea when I first went to that clinic I had previously went to start with another one so had done all the prelim testing already. So my current clinic just took all that, we did the counselling, they took our money and off we went. They have not once asked for a test to see what's going wrong. Privately through other FS clinics on the side I requested a scratch, a biopsy for nkc, mthfr tests, a range of other vitamin level tests, dq alpha match and intralipids. Not once has a FS at my clinic offered any advice other than you just need to keep trying. Everything looks good it's just you haven't done enough cycles. That's when I've even seen a FS which has been 3 times in 6 cycles. All contact is via the nurse on the phone and I deal with a few of those too. Some lovely and competent and some not as much so. They are hamstrung by the FS and it depends on the day whose there and picks up my file as to what will happen next. I am leaving the clinic now and I'm sure they'll be happy as they obviously don't know how to help me. I don't want my complaint to result in them offering me another free cycle as that's what happened with this one and here I am still not pregnant and still with no answers as to why. I don't know what else they could do? I am usually a fighter but is it worth it?
    @Caesardust that sounds awful. Is it a full-price clinic? Regardless I'd have thought you should have seen an FS a lot more than that! Maybe complain to ACCC? I think you'd agree that besides the financial and physical cost, the time and heartbreak are the key issues. After 3 cycles they really should have re-evaluated. I see IVF as more and more of a sub-specialty and wish it was recognized as such - not fobbed off on nurses. The difference between Wazza and FS#1 are miles apart. That said if you are moving on, then engaging in a dialogue about their shortcomings won't help you now.

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    @Gagingi Good Luck this morning Luv!!!


    and prayers being sent for lots of lovely mature eggies for you!!

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    @Caesardust Sending you big Luv.

    Did you POAS this morning before BT just to fully prepare yourself??

    It frucking sux Luv!!

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