@Maxwellsmum my take on it is that they are questioning the lawfulness of what they are doing here in Australia where our laws are strict about egg donation/non payment etc. The other question is whether these companies are just on a money grab in which desperate infertile couples are taken advantage of. There has been a bit of reporting recently about the IVF industry here so its possibly lead on from all that.
Look I think its valid for society to ask these questions, its partly about desperate couples wanting a baby but its also very much about the rights of the children who are born using donor eggs/sperm. There are loads of ethical questions which are continuously arising from all this and its a healthy attitude to look at them in detail.
One thing that is a little strange is that in the abc article they are talking like two individuals meet on the internet and they arrange for their other half of the "pair" to come over in this group. Isn't it a clinic in SA that has the list of donors that will travel and you choose who you want? Or have I got that wrong? It just sounds like they are assuming something else?
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I have a problem with these statements:
"It is very problematic that people are literally being 'sold' the idea that this is a reasonable way to form a family," she said. (Not 'reasonable' hey??)
"Once you open the door to such trade, yes, there are problems. People desperate to have a baby are charged huge amounts of money to access treatments that have relatively unknown 'success' rates. (If they're a proven donor then yes, indeed we do know their success rates, plus I'm sure QFG's success rates are transparent!!)
"Young girls are transported across borders so that their eggs can be procured. The people profiting most are the agents, the industry."
I don't disagree with the profiteering bit though!! The rest I find offensive and inaccurate.
Last edited by Tahli; 11-02-2016 at 14:08.
Maxwellsmum I totally understand where you're coming from re reaching out to the media. However I urge caution. I'm a journalist and have been in the media industry for 20 years plus. I deal with shows like ACA and ABC news regularly. Let's have a chat through pros and cons before you make any calls. Im meaning well by not wanting you to go ahead without giving you some advice. Xx
The first statement is offensive, those people clearly haven't been here and have no idea about infertility land.
But...it might not be the case in this instance that anything dodgy is happening but the reality is that it wouldn't be ridiculous to think that there could be young girls trafficked for their eggs, if its not already happening. Its not a stupid question and probably only a matter of time sadly. It is important that they make sure this stuff is ethical, and for everyone involved especially the recipients.
People can have such extreme stances on issues cant they until they are faced with the choice between nothing and having a child through donation. It sux
@Maxwellsmum In no way am I meaning to cause upset in any way. I just wanted to say I've had my concerns about this project since I heard about it. And my concern is for the first March/April-ish recipients. I can only hope for those gorgeous women that it does indeed go ahead.
I'm worried so much attention will get pointed in the program's direction, more questions will be raised, public opinion will come into the picture and the QLD gov't will hold the program's 'reimbursement' policy to further scrutiny...which could potentially delay things for the women who are the first off the blocks.
I can completely appreciate where @MamaKes is coming from with not wanting to draw further attention to the program via media outlets. I would also suggest treading very cautiously. (If that's what you meant @MamaKes)
Again, I am in no way judging other women's choices.
I know. Imagine if a bogan flame-haired female politician got wind of the program. Imagine her 'educated' contribution to the discussion!!
PS: I very much like the idea of doing a squat and out drops baby, very gently of course because I've not lost control of my lady muscles. I do 10,000 kegel exercises a day. It almost equals my Jaffa consumption.
Haha my bladder is crap when im running on the treddie. Any tips greatly appreciated.
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