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    Quote Originally Posted by teenie View Post
    I'm not sure what the pay rates are for these professions but I can attest that chaplains get paid buggar all. Might be a factor...and the churches pay/help pay.

    Can I also add that I support chaplains in schools because they offer a great service where often there is a big non-government funded hole. Only about my particular area, but there's a big high school near our church with many, many needy kids and families. The chaplain has his hands very full. So many believe the church is pumping a one-eyed agenda but the reality is the group of chaplain supporters I meet with have one goal to keep the funding up to that school - support those kids and families.
    I agree, where the option is a chaplain or nothing, then a chaplain is the best option. However, the IMO government *should* provide funding for secular counsel and student welfare management. It's great that the churches are stepping up to fill the gap, but I wonder if there are other alternatives.

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    Can I just say.... chaplains are payed very well. Schools are given an amount of money and the school is basically given semi free reign to divvy hours to the Chaplain. Our school chaplain is paid $40 an hour - and yes I know. I'm on the Board that governs the program and their wage. This person has no real quals but is a religious leader.

    I don't expect that each public school has their own social worker. But the funds from each chaplain would easily fund a 0.4 position in each school. Currently our social counsellor does around 12 schools! Imagine another 2 or 3! That would bring it down to 3 or 4 schools per counsellor.

    As to the Chaplain or nothing, I get why smaller schools settle for someone. But that is what the Abbott government wanted IMO it was a way to force religious people into public schools under the premise of 'we can't get a social worker so at least it's something'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Can I just say.... chaplains are payed very well. Schools are given an amount of money and the school is basically given semi free reign to divvy hours to the Chaplain. Our school chaplain is paid $40 an hour - and yes I know. I'm on the Board that governs the program and their wage. This person has no real quals but is a religious leader.

    I don't expect that each public school has their own social worker. But the funds from each chaplain would easily fund a 0.5 position in each school. Currently our social counsellor does around 12 schools! Imagine another 2 or 3! That would bring it down to 3 or 4 schools per counsellor.

    As to the Chaplain or nothing, I get why smaller schools settle for someone. But that is what the Abbott government wanted IMO it was a way to force religious people into public schools under the premise of 'we can't get a social worker so at least it's something'.
    How many hours a week does the chaplain work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Can I just say.... chaplains are payed very well. Schools are given an amount of money and the school is basically given semi free reign to divvy hours to the Chaplain. Our school chaplain is paid $40 an hour - and yes I know. I'm on the Board that governs the program and their wage. This person has no real quals but is a religious leader.

    I don't expect that each public school has their own social worker. But the funds from each chaplain would easily fund a 0.5 position in each school. Currently our social counsellor does around 12 schools! Imagine another 2 or 3! That would bring it down to 3 or 4 schools per counsellor.

    As to the Chaplain or nothing, I get why smaller schools settle for someone. But that is what the Abbott government wanted IMO it was a way to force religious people into public schools under the premise of 'we can't get a social worker so at least it's something'.
    What state are you in @delirium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    How many hours a week does the chaplain work?
    It varies according to need, but around 15-20 hours per week.

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    what state are you in @delirium?
    nsw

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Can I just say.... chaplains are payed very well. Schools are given an amount of money and the school is basically given semi free reign to divvy hours to the Chaplain. Our school chaplain is paid $40 an hour - and yes I know. I'm on the Board that governs the program and their wage. This person has no real quals but is a religious leader.

    I don't expect that each public school has their own social worker. But the funds from each chaplain would easily fund a 0.4 position in each school. Currently our social counsellor does around 12 schools! Imagine another 2 or 3! That would bring it down to 3 or 4 schools per counsellor.

    As to the Chaplain or nothing, I get why smaller schools settle for someone. But that is what the Abbott government wanted IMO it was a way to force religious people into public schools under the premise of 'we can't get a social worker so at least it's something'.
    We've currently got social workers - 4 year degree plus experience who don't make $40 per hour. Thanks SCHADS Award! Although the wages are getting better - Thanks ERO!

    Agree with your post too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    It varies according to need, but around 15-20 hours per week.
    Does he work at more than one school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    Does he work at more than one school?
    Nope, just ours.

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