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    Quote Originally Posted by CMF View Post
    Santa threads always do! lol


    I still can't really see why you can automatically blame the parents. Honestly all these sentences have only a couple of words difference, it would be so easy for a child to change it around a bit.

    eg.
    Hey son, we don't believe in Santa.
    Oh ok, you mean he's not real?
    Well, we don't believe he's real. Some people do though. So if your friends ever ask, you say you don't believe.
    ...
    Hey classmate, what'd you get off Santa?
    Oh nothing, we don't believe in Santa, my parents buy all our presents.
    What?? Santa comes to everyone!
    Nup. My mum says Santa's not real.
    He is so!
    Is not!
    Is so!
    Is not! Your parents are probably telling you fibs!
    And that's where there is also onus on the 'believe in Santa' family. I've already told my child that not everyone believes in or celebrates Santa, that he only comes to those that do believe. I also discuss different religious and cultural things with her because I believe it's good to have knowledge about more than just your own practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
    Stop telling me what I can tell my child about our beliefs. I am not telling you to tell your kids anything.

    Seriously my faith is important to me. Just as Santa is to you.

    Actually it the other way round in my experience. Having shop assistance yell and tell off your child because they don't believe. Yes we have had that.
    Having every second person ask about what they are getting or better behave or Santa won't come. It's bombardment after bombardment.

    Think of me what you want I don't give a flying fig. But don't try and get a child in trouble for speaking the truth. And yes that is what the op is was about it should I tell the teacher.
    No one is telling you to change/abandon your beliefs?? You said you teach your kids you don't believe in Santa as opposed to it's a lie. We've said that's what we've love our kids to be told.

    And forcing your beliefs on someone is indoctrinating a child into preaching to another about *your* beliefs then expecting them to accommodate you. Clearly you don't do that so I don't get why you are getting so angry?

    As I said, you believe what you want or don't want to and so will I. I would chastise my atheist child for preaching negativity to your child about something that is so important to you. Yet the courtesy should not be extended?

    I'm confused what you are upset about

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    I think the problem here is BRV framed her initial comment as it wasn't necessary for anyone to tell their kids Santa isn't real. That's love lives here's objection. And fair enough too. Why can't she tell her kids he isn't real. He isn't real.

    I don't think BRV really meant that. I think she's saying your kids should just say we don't believe. Which is what LLH's say.

    So I tend to agree with loveliveshere on this one. We tell our kids God isn't real but many people think he is and that's fine. And if they want to believe in him that's fine too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Poppy View Post
    I think you are reading far too much into some random forum post from someone you dont know. They are not forcing you to change anything.
    To be fair loveliveshere's faith is pretty integral to her. She's entitled to be bristly on this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Poppy View Post
    I think you are reading far too much into some random forum post from someone you dont know. They are not forcing you to change anything.
    Actually BRV and delirium and I have been on this forum for years. We have a good sense of each other. I repesct them and like them.
    On this subject we have but heads a few times. I see where they are coming from. I understand the point of view. I disagree with them.

    They are telling me that I should only say that we don't believe. That I can't expand on that. I can't say he is not real. I can not teach our belief system above we don't believe.

    By telling someone what to say and not to say about their faith that you don't understand is disrespectful and intolerant. That plain and simple.

    I will continue to teach my children that Santa is a tradition that we have adapted from St Nicholas who died serval hundred years ago. That there is no Santa that you need to be good for. That you be good because they are good people. That santa reminds us to be good to those less fortunate. And a whole lot more...

    I will not dumb that down we don't believe. In my our house I will teach my beliefs.

    I do teach the our kids to simply say to kids and adults that the we don't believe in Santa. As simply answer. If questioned more of course they can say more. Just as your child is free to tell my child all about what Santa has done for them. It not about one side being more important and over ruling the other child's beliefs. The 2 sides are equally important. They both can say what they believe.

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    what religion are you out of interest LLH? genuinely curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I think the problem here is BRV framed her initial comment as it wasn't necessary for anyone to tell their kids Santa isn't real. That's love lives here's objection. And fair enough too. Why can't she tell her kids he isn't real. He isn't real.

    I don't think BRV really meant that. I think she's saying your kids should just say we don't believe. Which is what LLH's say.

    So I tend to agree with loveliveshere on this one. We tell our kids God isn't real but many people think he is and that's fine. And if they want to believe in him that's fine too.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    what religion are you out of interest LLH? genuinely curious.
    Christian.

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    I have also been on this forum for many years LLH I am not some newby.
    I have no problem with what you believe and what you say to your children.
    I dont understand where you think brv is saying to change your beliefs.
    But this thread has given me a good chuckle for a foggy morning stuck indoors

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    I believe that God isn't real and people use religion as an emotional crutch and excuse to persecute others. That's my genuine belief, and the latter is most certainly true.

    Are those Christians here ok with me telling my young child that..... who then goes and tells your child that. But that's ok bc that's *my* belief you are trying to extinguish. You can't tell me what I tell my child, and by extension, what my child tells your child.

    Do you see the glaring inconsistency here given how upset religious people on this forum get?

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