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    I may be lost but isnt BRV saying uts fine for you and your family to not believe in santa but perhaps say to your kids that other kids believe in him so dont tell them he isnt real?
    Its all about respecting each others choices

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    Default WWYD? 7 year old daughter being told "Santa isn't real"

    LoveLivesHere - Just to clarify, I was never going to discuss with the teacher to get the little girl in trouble. Why would I deliberately want to get a child in trouble for being themselves & speaking about what they believe in?
    The only reason talking to the teacher was a possible option was so that maybe the teacher could have a friendly word with her parents, so that they too, like me, could remind their child that not everyone has the same beliefs, or follow the same religions or traditions etc and that its ok & to just leave it alone and especially not to tell them that their parents are liars. That is uncalled for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Poppy View Post
    I may be lost but isnt BRV saying uts fine for you and your family to not believe in santa but perhaps say to your kids that other kids believe in him so dont tell them he isnt real?
    Its all about respecting each others choices
    Yes, that's what I'm reading too 😑

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    Default WWYD? 7 year old daughter being told "Santa isn't real"

    whoa! this thread is getting heated.

    LLH I think what people are saying is there's basically a diplomatic way to express opposing viewpoints. what I might say/think at home is going to differ to what comes out of my mouth when I'm outside the house and amongst people in a social setting.

    I don't interpret anyone saying "we don't believe in Santa" as diminishing or trivializing or denying your religious views. it's basically a diplomatic way of saying "we don't believe Santa is real" but without actually saying it. to preserve the myth for those kids whose parents elect to perpetuate the idea that he exists.

    I don't think you necessarily have to say "he is categorically not real" in order to be devout and faithful to your religious views. you can simply tell people "we don't do Santa/don't believe in Santa" and I think that is enough. it's not denying your own views neither is it forcing them onto anyone else. you merely make a statement of fact that you agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    Yeah, sorry... I still don't see how BRV has said you need to change your beliefs, just that adjusting your wording or explaining to your children how to respond if the topic arises.

    Is there anything so wrong with wording your beliefs/non beliefs in a way that is respectful to everyone? Changing "it's a lie/not true" to "I don't believe" isn't going to do any harm.
    I'm a strong atheist (we do celebrate parts of Christmas and play along with Santa though), but I'm cautious of how I talk to my 4 year old, because I'm aware of what she will repeat and I think it would be disrespectful for her to shut other families' beliefs down, based on my own.

    And your last paragraph is exactly what BRV has been saying.
    Seriously.

    Yes there is huge things wrong with asking a person to change their beliefs to suit your wants.

    Yes words matter. Yes changing the context matters. It is a faith.


    As I have said my kids have thought my kids to be tolerant of other people beliefs and they do try and say we don't believe.

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    But it isnt asking you to change your faith or beliefs. Its just a different way of projecting your views using different phrases.
    Everyone is basically agreeing saying not to change your faith but you are still arguing a point that doesnt make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
    Seriously.

    Yes there is huge things wrong with asking a person to change their beliefs to suit your wants.

    Yes words matter. Yes changing the context matters. It is a faith.


    As I have said my kids have thought my kids to be tolerant of other people beliefs and they do try and say we don't believe.
    Except no one in this thread has asked for you, or anyone else, to change their beliefs. Just to be aware of their wording, which, once again, you have clarified that you have done so with your own children, so you're getting worked up over something that isn't even aimed at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Poppy View Post
    I may be lost but isnt BRV saying uts fine for you and your family to not believe in santa but perhaps say to your kids that other kids believe in him so dont tell them he isnt real?
    Its all about respecting each others choices
    I do, do that.

    BRV has stated that I Shouldn't tell My children that he isn't real.
    That I should change our family beliefs by changing the context of the words our faith.


    That the is issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    whoa! this thread is getting heated.

    Santa threads always do! lol


    I still can't really see why you can automatically blame the parents. Honestly all these sentences have only a couple of words difference, it would be so easy for a child to change it around a bit.

    eg.
    Hey son, we don't believe in Santa.
    Oh ok, you mean he's not real?
    Well, we don't believe he's real. Some people do though. So if your friends ever ask, you say you don't believe.
    ...
    Hey classmate, what'd you get off Santa?
    Oh nothing, we don't believe in Santa, my parents buy all our presents.
    What?? Santa comes to everyone!
    Nup. My mum says Santa's not real.
    He is so!
    Is not!
    Is so!
    Is not! Your parents are probably telling you fibs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
    I do, do that.

    BRV has stated that I Shouldn't tell My children that he isn't real.
    That I should change our family beliefs by changing the context of the words our faith.


    That the is issue.
    I think you are reading far too much into some random forum post from someone you dont know. They are not forcing you to change anything.


 

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