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    I would think most people who don't do Santa do explain to their kids to be sensitive to others though. I make sure my kids know not to rain on other kids' parade when it comes to beliefs, or Santa.

    But at the end of the day, we don't know what the parents in the OP have said (or not said). Sometimes you can do everything right as a parent and your kids will still say the wrong thing or say something thoughtless that you'd be aghast at. They're not robots.

    I don't think its a major issue to get worked up over. My children tell me that other kids tell them they're lying all the time. Its not nice, but all sorts of unpleasant things get said on the playground. They're only little, and they're still learning how to deal with these things.

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    I havent read all 13 pages of replies, but my kids know that santa isn't real. It's not because of religious reasons (even though I am religious), more so that I am not comfortable with lying to them (NO JUDGEMENT for other parents who tell their kids santa is real - for 'me', I feel like I would be feeding them a lie. I know others don't feel this way, & I totally respect that we all parent differently &thats ok).

    I tell my kids that some people believe in santa,but we know he isn't real. I tell them its a 'game' of pretend parents like to play with their kids,so we mustn't spoil their game. I do tell them that I believe in God, but other people don't believe in God, so I tie it all in together - we all have different beliefs, so should respect others beliefs. (This is a HUGE thing for me - I teach my kids to respect everyones beliefs even though they are different to our own, & that diversity is a beautiful thing. We are lucky that we are christian & have friends who are athiest, agnostic, christian, hindu, catholic, & mormon. So we live with a diversity of beliefs in daily life). A little bit of respect for our fellow human beings,no matter what we believe, goes such a long way. For me, THAT is the important lesson - not whether or not they believe in santa, god, Allah, etc - but how we respect each other and treat each other in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I'd be annoyed. Ok, it is the truth, but you could argue there are a lot of truths we should keep to ourselves!

    I wonder what the reaction would be if your DD told her Brethren friend that God was in fact a made up story for ancient people to explain science.... which we now have. I suspect her mother would be furious.
    I believe in God, but I tell my kids that lots and lots of people dont believe in God. I wouldnt be upset at ALL if someone said that to my child. I'd just tell them that's what they believe, but that I personally believe god is real. My daughter and I have had similar conversations & she will say 'I believe God is real too, Mummy'. But I believe questioning your beliefs instead of blindly accepting is important and healthy, so I'm glad for my daughter to know that we all believe differently. Why would I want to lie to her & pretend that everyone believes the same as I do, when I know that just isnt true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicHobgoblin View Post
    And neither is god.
    In fairness there is proof Santa isn't real (parents don't buy kids presents = kids don't get presents). No one has proof God isn't.

    In my mind they're two different things.

    But explain both to your kids however you see fit based in your own belief systems, it's a parent's role to do so, OP no point in talking to the teacher about it, these are the sorts of things that kids will always come across as they find out Santa isn't real at different ages and stages. Just like they need to learn to deal with bullying and not always getting what they want, it's all your job to help your kids through all of that. Yes teachers can support that but they can't have a word to said child or family about telling kids Santa isn't real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    In fairness there is proof Santa isn't real (parents don't buy kids presents = kids don't get presents). No one has proof God isn't.

    In my mind they're two different things.

    But explain both to your kids however you see fit based in your own belief systems, it's a parent's role to do so, OP no point in talking to the teacher about it, these are the sorts of things that kids will always come across as they find out Santa isn't real at different ages and stages. Just like they need to learn to deal with bullying and not always getting what they want, it's all your job to help your kids through all of that. Yes teachers can support that but they can't have a word to said child or family about telling kids Santa isn't real.
    No one has proof the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist either. Lack of proof of something's non-existence does not mean it's possible it exists.

    I agree with your point that there's a teacher's role and a parent's role. Basic values come from home and it's our responsibility to make sure our kids grow up as decent human beings. Obviously there are cases when little Johnny is just an inherent a-hole (pretty sure the parents of serial killers aren't all necessarily evil knob jockeys) but for the most part, teaching decency and respect lies with the parents. I do expect teachers to pull kids up at school if they're deliberately being turds to other kids, but the underlying reason for that behaviour is the parent's responsibility. Random schoolyard conversation is always going to throw up differences in opinion and bring with it some tough conversations at home, that's part of parenting.

    Really, it's way easier just having a dog.

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    I just wanted add something especially to new to school parents.

    Sometimes kids saying things like Santa/god/the spaghetti monster isn't real.
    It might not be them being a *******. They could have a invisible disability like aspergers. They struggle understand social interactions and often really don't understand why it's wrong to come out with these sort things.

    Just a heads up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
    I just wanted add something especially to new to school parents.

    Sometimes kids saying things like Santa/god/the spaghetti monster isn't real.
    It might not be them being a *******. They could have a invisible disability like aspergers. They struggle understand social interactions and often really don't understand why it's wrong to come out with these sort things.

    Just a heads up.
    My kids all believe in Santa except my 4yo with autism. He doesn't like Santa because he can't grasp the logic of it and he doesn't like that a strange man was in our house while he was asleep.
    He still gets Santa presents and he still sees Santa at the shops but we are careful how we word things with him. To him, Santa is basically a store clerk.

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    Default WWYD? 7 year old daughter being told "Santa isn't real"

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    Nobody has called any child names.

    I'm a teacher. We have 3 special education classes at my school plus at least 1 child on the spectrum in many classes across the school. I've got friends whose children are on the spectrum. One time we were at the shops and her 5 year old son said look at that fat ugly lady. Now I know that he's not saying that to be mean, that's just how he sees her in is little world. But you can avoid a situation of a child on the spectrum blurting out Santa isn't real and your parents are lying to you to a small child by simply saying something else, like we don't believe in Santa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Nobody has called any child names.

    I'm a teacher. We have 3 special education classes at my school plus at least 1 child on the spectrum in many classes across the school. I've got friends whose children are on the spectrum. One time we were at the shops and her 5 year old son said look at that fat ugly lady. Now I know that he's not saying that to be mean, that's just how he sees her in is little world. But you can avoid a situation of a child on the spectrum blurting out Santa isn't real and your parents are lying to you to a small child by simply saying something else, like we don't believe in Santa.
    As a teacher myself, I know that children with ASD often DO see the world differently, & speak & understand things with black and white logic. So whilst I can tell my child 'I dont believe in santa/ santa is pretend', a child with ASD can retell that as 'santa isnt real & you are lying'. A parent of a child with ASD should still be able to teach them their beliefs in their own way.

    I think the pressure parenta put on society as a whole to maintain the 'santa lie' is ridiculous. I think it was last year that Kitty Flanagan on the project let it slip about santa in a joke. The uproar was huge, & there was a big apology & cover up story about the whole thing. It was like a massive scandal. I think it's going a little bit too far. We shouldnt live in fear that someone in our child's life my possibly 'let it slip' that santa isnt real. Relax,respect that everyone believes something different, & teach your kids about different beliefs. That its ok to believe different things.

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