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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    But he isn't real..
    And neither is god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicHobgoblin View Post
    And neither is god.
    Agreed. I would prefer to tell my kids "look. He isn't real. But some believe he is so just let them be and don't go giving them a hard time about it."

    I don't feel comfortable with telling my kids "just because you think r isn't real doesn't mean he isn't."

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Agreed. I would prefer to tell my kids "look. He isn't real. But some believe he is so just let them be and don't go giving them a hard time about it."
    See this is pretty much word for word what I tell my kids about God, and what I hope others who are anti-Santa would tell their kids. Except I don't say he isn't real, I say I don't think he's real.

    I don't get the real/not real argument anyway. What happened to respecting people's beliefs, period? And let's be honest, the case for proving God is real is poor at best. Santa can be real, he's the dude your child sits on for photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    See this is pretty much word for word what I tell my kids about God, and what I hope others who are anti-Santa would tell their kids. Except I don't say he isn't real, I say I don't think he's real.

    I don't get the real/not real argument anyway. What happened to respecting people's beliefs, period? And let's be honest, the case for proving God is real is poor at best. Santa can be real, he's the dude your child sits on for photos
    I agree about the evidence proving the existence of god being poor. That being said as there is still a reasonable amount of 'debate' over the existence of god I will compromise and tell me children "I don't believe god is real but some people do." However with Santa (where every adult with a brain knows he is not real) I am not going to dance around the truth. I will say "Santa is not real. However some young kids still believe in Santa and that gives them a whole lot of enjoyment. If you tell kids Santa isn't real then there will be no Santa present for you." If my kid pushes me on whether Santa is real I will follow up with a "honey - there is absolutely no way Santa is real."

    I am just not comfortable lying by omission to my child when they have identified a flaw in a story, I am 100% confident I know the truth and they have come to me for clarification.

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    But how do you know santa isn't real? Maybe he is but because adults don't belive in him he leaves us to buy presents ourselves. Lol
    Anyways. I would rather belive in a fat jolly guy who brings presents and makes children happy then a god who likes killing people. I believe in Santa because he comes every year and makes my kids happy. Even if it is me pretending.

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    Does it matter though? We always say on here that we should respect others parenting choices, lifestyle choices, beliefs over a range of things. To have tolerance.

    I think we are getting bogged down in this aspect of the debate. Expecting that someone blindly respect your religious beliefs and by extension, your kids, but then refusing to respect others based on the 'santa's not real' technicality is hypocritical.

    Obviously kids are kids, they say lots of embarrassing stuff, I have 3 of them I know lol I don't expect people to gag their kids, that would be both stupid and impossible. All that I ask is for those that don't do santa for whatever reason, to explain to their kids that some parents do santa, others don't and to try not to spoil it by running around telling their kinder class that Santa is a lie. Just as I think God is a crock, my kids have been raised with respect, tolerance and empathy. They would never ever outwardly question a Brethren child and I would be upset if they did.

    Real, not real, who cares. It's not hard to raise your child with respect.
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    There is a huge difference between a 10/11 year old child starting to see cracks in the Santa fantasy and asking their parents about it to a 5 year old being told by another kid that your parents are lying to you and Santa isn't real!

    I would challenge any parent here to put their hand up and tell us that they've never lied to their child. Ever.

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    The difference with the Santa/God issue is that even those parents who do the Santa thing and whose kids believe know Santa is not real. They know that they are the ones buying the presents. Santa is not their belief system.

    With God the parents very much believe as well. They believe he is real.

    You really can't compare the two.

    (And I'm saying this as someone who does not believe in either.)

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    I have raised my children to respect other people's beliefs. It's like when my friends kid was having a melt down once because her friend told her mermaids aren't real. Leave people to what they believe in. My son was learning Arabic from my friend and I said you can teach him about your religion but DO NOT say Santa isn't real. You can say you don't believe in him but do not try and convince him santa isn't real. Well she did so I stop him from going there. I'm open to my son learning but if you try and force your beliefs on him and ruin his childhood how he was raised, I'm not going to be happy. I'm happy for it to happen over time if he finds hints that santa is just mummy spoiling them but let it happen in his own time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMuppet View Post
    The difference with the Santa/God issue is that even those parents who do the Santa thing and whose kids believe know Santa is not real. They know that they are the ones buying the presents. Santa is not their belief system.

    With God the parents very much believe as well. They believe he is real.

    You really can't compare the two.

    (And I'm saying this as someone who does not believe in either.)
    Well I believe in Santa. So I'm safe. Haha


 

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