@gorgeousgeorge I'm so glad that you have made your decision and moving ahead, can't wait to get the updates when you pregnant
thank you so much @Juventina! I'm even more excited about our decision now! So needed that!
Thanks for letting us know about the weather as well as we are there end Aug/Sept.... hmmm
I'm so happy for you to have 6 eggs growing
I hope all goes well during your transfer!!
@Gen72 thank you so much for your well wishes and especially even though im doing anonymous donor ivf (if i remember correctly you like the known donor program) so i really appreciate your support even though im making a different choice. My heart often skips a beat when i hear "when..." instead of "if...." with regards to pregnancy n babies because ive learnt to expect the worst, so thanks for your belief in me too.
@Rhino juventina is so right about august weather mate. I was in athens in august years ago and i remember 1 day we couldnt go out onto our balcony because it was like standing on an aussie road in the middle of summer and the railings and furniture would burn if you accidentaly touched them. I also remember one day finding it hard to see because of the glare from the pavement and you could see those heat wave blurs rising from the streets. I loved it because im not warm n happy until its above 30 degrees! Lol, this sounds alarmist, but 40degree heat is great if you're on the beach on a greek island, not so great if you stuck in the urban jungle, so my point is even if you tolerate heat well- stay somewhere with aircon so you can escape the heat if you need to- even i needed too! By the way Athens was one of my all time favourite places in europe. I just reread my travel diary and i described one day there as "the greatest day of my life" so dont be put off by my comments about the heat. Id be going there in july summer if i could but im still saving $ and an extra month makes a big difference.
@MamaKes Are you ok? Just wondering how things are going. You are in my thoughts everyday. Just wanted you to know xox
@CherryCP hello my friend, i have chosen my clinic and wanted to say thank you for your input and advice and references etc.. too. I did check all that out :-) Hope the little ones r going all good n snuggled in nice n tight and that the farm's going well too.
Ive been doing so much thinking over the last 2 months and im wondering if people would be willing to share their thoughts n reasons about how, who and when they told people about using a donor when they are telling people they are preggers (getting ahead of myself again!). Id like to see if there are things people thought of, that i havent considered. E.g. i was thinking ages ago of blogging about my struggle with giving up on my own eggs but then realised my imaginary kid might see it one day and feel like they were my 2nd choice or a last resort. So i realised rhat might not be a goid idea and really hit home about thinking very carefully about my decisions. So im trying very hard to weigh up all the consequences of my actions etc...
I want my child to know i used a donor from the very beginning.
Ive also told close friends and family that my dr. has recommended using a donor because ive been doing ivf for so long, i couldnt keep it a secret.
I live in a really small town, like 4000 people. I was born here n lived here all my life (except 4 years away to go to uni) and im a teacher at the only high school, so basically i know everyone and they know me, which i love :-). So once one person knows, the whole town will know, unlike in a big city where i could choose to tell people and not tell other people.
I dont want it to be a 'secret' because i feel that implies that i feel ive done something wrong or that im ashamed, iykwim, which i am NOT :-)
Also, my students will probably find out and id like to be able to share my story with them and teach them about life and how its difficult sometimes and doesnt always work out the way you planned.
Id also like to kind of get rid of the taboo culture of infertility. Tell people about what its like for people like us.
Personally, id like to keep any pregnancy a secret until its totally unavoidable and tell everyone that i used a donor at that time. I figure all the hype and gossip will be well over and done with by the time my imaginary child was able to understand things. So people will be used to the idea. Even my fertility clinic said theyd never had anyone go overseas for ivf.
I dont care about other people judging me, its just that i imagine a scenario where i tell people im preggers and they are ecstatic because they know about my ivf struggles, then i say i used an anonymous donor overseas and they might not know how to react. Like, "so, are we still happy and celebrating or is this a sad thing?" Im trying to consider that for other people this might be confronting and shocking whereas for me, ive already gotten over that feeling ages ago.
I know its my own personal decision but im wondering what all you other wise women think? Especially remembering because i live in a really small community i can either tell noone or eveyone. I cant really ask selected people to keep it a secret. Are there other things ive neglected to consider?
What did you do/plan to do and what were your reasons?
AND HAPPY FRIDAY AND LONG WEEKEND!!! xox
@Juventina I forgot to say congrats on your follicle numbers and I'll be checking in to see how you are going. Im wishing you all the best. At first i was a bit unsure about dr.k but having spoken to him more regularly and after i told my australian fertility specialist and double checked with him what he thought about dr.n's proposed protocol for me, im happy with my decision too.
Can you give me contact details for the apartments in the plaka please? I was gonna do 4 days in a hotel in the plaka region then 6 days at dr.n's apartments but the hotel is 400euro. I wanted to be in and amongst the best area while im waiting for transfer, then didnt mind moving away from the plaka after transfer. So an aparment in the plaka sounds great.
I also wanted to ask everyone about prednisolone and clexane. My blood tests indicate i dont need these things (although i havent had nk cells tested). My australian specialist put me on prednisolone after my 1st failed ivf, then clexane too for my 3 -4th failed ivfs. My main problem is poor egg quality due to endometriosis. Dr n said i didnt need to use prednisolone or clexane and to be honest i was bloody relieved (im sure if you've had them you know why :-) ) I asked my aussie FS and he said see what dr.n thinks. I have hoarded prescriptions for both drugs and could easily just prescribe them to myself and ive used them on drs advice for last 2 ivf cycles even though it was just a kitchen- sink -precautionary -why not? sort of thing. Do you think i should use them just in case? Seems a small price to pay if it makes a difference and dont want to find out the hard way i should have used them. ALTHOUGH THE THOUGHT OF USING CLEXANE FOR 12 WEEKS MAKES ME FEEL NAUSEOUS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT-LOL!!!
@gorgeousgeorge yes I did use KED here in Australia...but it all comes down to personal choice and I am just here to pass on any info I can to assist anyone in making their decision, not here to influence them
I do have elevated NK cells so am taking everything and the kitchen sink...and the neighbours kitchen sink. And at currently 10wks I do get a little overwhelmed in the morning looking at the line of things to swallow, inject, insert and rub on me. But I wouldn't change it for the world.
Does endometriosis have any effect on implantation?
You will need to decide this for yourself...but I must admit I'm kind of a 'what the hell' lets try it kinda person.
@gorgeousgeorge I would be more than happy to 'tell you my story'. I have written a kinda of journal of our struggle...I did it to 'help me' when I felt that DP had heard all he could take, but needed to off load.
You have my email address to if there are particular questions you want to ask drop me a line...I can also give you the info that the counsellor recommended as far as telling the kids.
Officially 12 weeks today. So relieved to make the milestone.
@AnnaMM Yay! Thats wonderful news. Im so happy for you and i totally get how you would be relieved too. Hard not to worry when you're an ivf-er :-) Whats the next milestone to worry about? ;-) (I dont know much about 13weeks to birth-ive never had to bother to start researching that Lol) What can they tell at 12weeks about the baby and can you see the baby on scans by then?
I had a scan at around 8 weeks and all was well. I'm going to a public hospital and they won't see me until I'm 18 weeks so until then I have no clue! Never been pregnant before either
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