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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    I asked Wazza about my being on DHEA as I have PCOS (i.e. higher testosterone). This was after our discussion on here a few weeks ago about it not being recommended for PCO/PCOS women and he said it should be considered on an individual basis for over 40s with PCOS. So hopefully if ladies who do have PCOS (who read this), won't stress as long as they have a good FS they trust. With me he did stop it a week or so before I started stimming and is also balancing it during stimming with Progynova.
    @Gagingi - that's good to know. My FS said he wouldn't recommend dhea " for me" but I am not sure why. Because I've been using menopur which has the lh in it I want to find out my testosterone level to know whether I should in fact be using it. I don't think I have higher testosterone but how do I know without a test, as not everyone would have symptoms. I am hoping I was tested as part of my full bloods before I started IVF and it was a normal level.

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    @Caesardust - congrats on being PUPO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Too exciting @Caesardust!!! Are they day 5 blasts?
    I believe they are both day 6 which worries me plus they didn't look as expanded as they should've been. The FS kept saying with these being our last embies we should do Pgd next time as there was no point going on transferring without it. I know that but it made me think he thought they weren't going to make it. I might be overthinking it. Dp didn't think there was an issue. I also asked if he thought they looked OK and he explained the thawing process and that they hope they expand further and hatch once in their natural environment. I'm very very nervous but trying to be cool as a cucumber.

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    Cool cucumber - did they give you a pic?

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    I'm sure they're fine Caesardust. I think it depends on how early (before the transfer) they unfroze them. day 6 would mean starting to hatch? so they probably wouldn't look like day5s I think. they're puffing up nicely inside you now, I bet. let's hope they hold hands and help each other burrow in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Cool cucumber - did they give you a pic?
    No I didn't bother with a pic this time. Feel like all the excitement and joy has gone from the process now. I just want to get it done and get out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesardust View Post
    I believe they are both day 6 which worries me plus they didn't look as expanded as they should've been. The FS kept saying with these being our last embies we should do Pgd next time as there was no point going on transferring without it. I know that but it made me think he thought they weren't going to make it. I might be overthinking it. Dp didn't think there was an issue. I also asked if he thought they looked OK and he explained the thawing process and that they hope they expand further and hatch once in their natural environment. I'm very very nervous but trying to be cool as a cucumber.
    @Caesardust They're all shrunk up from the freezing aren't they, they suck all the water out to freeze? I got warned with each FET that they would look a bit odd. Incy was the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossom74 View Post
    That is REALLY interesting. I had never considered that some egg donors might indeed be looking for a surrogate for themselves, rather than being altruistic in donating their eggs. Which is sort of the point you're getting at, I think? So a case of "Well, I have all the eggs in the world but I will insist on seeing the child periodically etc...."

    I can't believe I never thought of that. Still, I suppose that's nothing a good legal document couldn't fix
    I think that is what the counselling hopefully flushes out. I can imagine a young woman whose partner doesn't want kids, thinking somebody may as well use her eggs, but in 10-15 years time that could be hard. I know a number of women who have thought they could sacrifice kids, then at age 40 realised they couldn't... I also think that is a key reason they want donors to have had kids (as well as the proven fertility aspect and risks to future fertility). I also have older friends who have never wanted kids and never had regrets, who would have made great donors.

    A legal document will only work until the kids are 18. So whilst counselling is time consuming and potentially may identify a poor donor-recipient fit, it's really important to clarify roles and expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green lady View Post
    @Gagingi - that's good to know. My FS said he wouldn't recommend dhea " for me" but I am not sure why. Because I've been using menopur which has the lh in it I want to find out my testosterone level to know whether I should in fact be using it. I don't think I have higher testosterone but how do I know without a test, as not everyone would have symptoms. I am hoping I was tested as part of my full bloods before I started IVF and it was a normal level.
    Wazza has me taking Menopur, alternating with Gonal-F and I've done much better on that than pure Gonal-F, in terms of quality. My GP was quite stunned when I got diagnosed with PCOS at 40 as I don't have a lot of symptoms, but I do have a few chin hairs I'm forever plucking and I'd say that is from high testosterone...

    When are your PGD results due? How are you traveling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    I think that is what the counselling hopefully flushes out. I can imagine a young woman whose partner doesn't want kids, thinking somebody may as well use her eggs, but in 10-15 years time that could be hard. I know a number of women who have thought they could sacrifice kids, then at age 40 realised they couldn't... I also think that is a key reason they want donors to have had kids (as well as the proven fertility aspect and risks to future fertility). I also have older friends who have never wanted kids and never had regrets, who would have made great donors.

    A legal document will only work until the kids are 18. So whilst counselling is time consuming and potentially may identify a poor donor-recipient fit, it's really important to clarify roles and expectations.
    My donor doesn't have/want to have kids. It really is about finding the right person for you which can be difficult when we are in such a desperate rush and the donors choose us. It's a minefield really but I do trust my donors judgement and we discussed it in counseling.

    Once the sperm and eggs have mixed the recipients have complete ownership of the embryos. So any legal document I would have thought would be for the donors benefit as all the rights are in the recipients hands from then on. The only thing is, you can't on donate any spare frozen embryos as the number of families donors can donate to is limited. So they'd have to be stored or destroyed or donated to science (which Genea told me that they have too many already)
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