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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Yep, that's exactly what she was saying @Blossom. My guess is she's working with possible percentages of success after 3 failed DE cycles. I'm going to ask my CT FS's opinion.
    I think the crushing bit was hearing it wasn't worth trying with my OEs after she'd suggested a Boost Cycle and given me a script for meds to boost the condition of my eggs and I'd reserved my DS etc. She certainly wasn't saying to stop using my OEs in our consult 2 weeks ago.
    @tuxcat If I had access to IUI I'd do it in my off cycles but b/c I'm over 40 I can't access IUI in Victoria. The success rates are too low apparently. Thanks for the suggestion though.
    I remember following the final part of @McGBertie's ttc journey. What an inspiration!
    Makes me wonder if she's telling you not to bother as it'll mess up her own personal stats for the 40+ category???

    If you want to try with your OE's then transfer over to Dr NL instead and have a go. It's up to you if you want to try Luv. It's not like you wouldn't be going in with your eyes wide open in regards to success rates etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxcat View Post
    just a question for the NK cells treatment, do you have to keep taking everything right into the pregnancy or do you wean off at an earlyish point?
    I know with Wazza the basic immune stuff is to wean off at 12 weeks but with Dr M and such, I think it would depend on your individual circumstances as to how long you'd need to take everything.
    @Chiefsgirl will be able to clarify a bit more about that

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    I'm so sorry @Tahli, I really wish it had been a better outcome for you. I wonder, if your 'oven' was found to be fine, what has changed your FS's opinion all of a sudden? Do you think it was simply a matter of "Well, if DE won't implant, what hope do her OE's have?"


    Me, I'm of the opinion that you should seek an alternative opinion, lol. And I know I keep banging on about this, but I really DO believe it - if your gut is telling you to do an OE cycle then d@mmit, that's what you should be doing.


    I hold a lot of stock in gut instinct. Maybe spend a little time thinking on it. Listen to what your inner voice is telling you. Do YOU think an OE cycle is a possibility? If so, make an appointment with someone who will help you do that, so you don't wonder about it for the rest of your life

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    @Precious40 good luck today!

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    @BlondeinBrisvegas She said b/c I'm only getting one or two OEs it wasn't worth trying. I know this will anger a lot of you as I have no doubt a huge amount of over 40's only get one or two eggs. And @Blossom74 this in no way should deter you.
    Yep, you were spot on BiB, I reckon she's thought, well if this patient can't fall pregnant after 3 DE cycles with perfect blasts then she's not going to get pregnant with a day 3 OE transfer, let's get her off my books, she'll drag down my own success rates. Ruthless but that's exactly what I believe she's thinking too.

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    Default IVF over 40 #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    Morning girls, thanks so much for your well wishes for yesterdays hysteroscopy, D&C, endo scratch & pap smear. My oven is perfectly healthy. LB kept saying it's a complete mystery as to why it's not working.
    I asked her what my chances of success are with an OE transfer. She shook her head and indicated none.
    She said the women she refers to CT usually get pregnant on their first or second try, so to do one more double DE transfer and stop. She suggested only taking Clexane (homo MTHFR) and Astrix (to prevent a stroke). And that I should have a higher chance of success after the clean out.
    I have a bit to come to terms with.

    PS: She was completely relaxed pre-theatre, when we chatted, and it felt more like she was talking to me as a friend...plus I get a feeling she wants me off her books now. I think @Sue77 knows the feeling!
    That's awesome that your oven got the all clear. At least that's one thing you can tick off your list. Will be interesting to see what advice your FS in CT gives you. Must be a bit upsetting that LB indicated no chance with OE. I agree with Blonde though, and if you're aware of your chances, it's really up to you if you want to give it a go. I was very close to 42 when I found the magic OE. So it is possible. And I don't get many eggs either. And you do still have those lovely frosties as back up though x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    @BlondeinBrisvegas She said b/c I'm only getting one or two OEs it wasn't worth trying. I know this will anger a lot of you as I have no doubt a huge amount of over 40's only get one or two eggs. And @Blossom74 this in no way should deter you.
    Yep, you were spot on BiB, I reckon she's thought, well if this patient can't fall pregnant after 3 DE cycles with perfect blasts then she's not going to get pregnant with a day 3 OE transfer, let's get her off my books, she'll drag down my own success rates. Ruthless but that's exactly what I believe she's thinking too.
    Look...I can see her point about only getting 1 or 2 OE's & she's right to make you aware that the chances aren't great however, again, it would be & is your decision about whether to try or not.

    You could always pull the pin before EPU if you only had a couple of follicles & weren't feeling confident. I say fruck her & go elsewhere to a FS who will support your choices & have a go if doing this final OE Cycle is extremely important to you xo

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuxcat View Post
    just a question for the NK cells treatment, do you have to keep taking everything right into the pregnancy or do you wean off at an earlyish point?
    @tuxcat I start weaning at 10 weeks, clexane stops altogether, prednisone will take another 20 days (from 25mg) but this is genea, I don't think they go the whole hog compared to others.
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    @Tahli I'd be really interested to know how you'd go with an IUI given that you've had a natural pregnancy and baby. The fact that its non invasive when it comes to your eggs I would think could only be a good thing. Maybe you could go on a "holiday" to somewhere outside of Vic and try one through a low cost clinic?

    Ive had 2 FS's tell me they think we should move on to DE. Ive had that sunken feeling to hear that but honestly my response in my head was that they've been wrong the whole time through this so what makes that response any more right. The honest answer is that nobody knows what will happen, they base their responses on statistics. And I've also had that experience where they change their mind the next appointment about something which I think is more a case of them forgetting what they said the last time. Yes I know the reality is they are probably right, we are all aware the chances are low, however we are going for one more go so that I can be satisfied that we have done what we want to do and have not been swayed to stop by someone so that I will regret it later. It took me a while to get to that point but now I realise this is my life not theirs and Im the one that has everything to lose if I don't follow my gut.

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    Not deterred at all @Tahli I reckon @BIB's right. Why not try stimming and just seeing what's on offer? You never know, you might get a pleasant surprise. That's what I'm doing ATM, seeing what (if anything) crops up and proceeding from there. Wether that be to EPU or onto another month of stims only time will tell.

    I also wanted to ask everyone's opinion on something. As you know, this is our last shot at the big time. I was talking to DH last night and raised the issue of "If we get to the end with no result, how would you feel about advertising for a sperm donor in our area" and going the self-insemination route.

    Is this an option, do you think?

    Obviously there are certain conditions I would be wanting met - Full STD checks, contracts drawn up removing any of the donor's rights to parent/see the child etc.

    Is it legal to advertise for a sperm donor? Does anyone know how/where you might go about doing that?

    It's a small window of opportunity that otherwise would remain closed to us - natural conception. But maybe worth a shot, so to speak?


    ETA: DH said "We'll see when we get there" which basically means I could talk him into it if I had to!
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