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    @Caesardust you did great to have gotten through that without breaking down yourself so well done! We all get it, and we've all had some experience similar, its frucked up basically! How hard is it to understand that it hurts to hear people around us falling pregnant so easily!! Men!
    @faithandhopellove I hear those conversations all the time, and more and more I step in and say well its donor eggs as they are too old to conceive via IVF with their own. People talk about celebrities having babies at 48 and don't know that its not their own eggs. Its part of the ongoing lie that we have all been sold about this - that chances are you wont fall pregnant in your forties. So many people say to me that their mother had them at 40 etc etc and of course there are some but its not the norm, not unless they've had kids prior which i think seems to help in a lot of cases. Its frustrating. ANd I think that woman replacing the concentric circles needs an empty bottle of wine next to her and wine glass in hand!
    @Tahli the immune stuff is contraversial in the eyes of many FS's. The director of Genea doesn't believe in it and I know a few Drs that work there that do not and wont treat them as such. The FS I saw at IVFA said to me that we could try it but that the jury was still out whether it actually worked or not so its not as "proven" as it seems in here. Nothing against anyone in here btw Im just stating the facts of the Drs I know about - their views on it. Everyone has their own take on it. Im in the undecided camp, and since my FS is so against it and I am scared of Prednisone after my experience its not something I will be jumping to try again. Not at this stage anyway, never say never though if the DE aren't working. Good luck tomorrow, look after yourself and lets hope the grease and oil change does the oven wonders!!

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    @Twiglets Im so sorry to hear that, its never easy. I hope youve got some nice treats to help heal the heart

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    so sorry to hear Twiglets. can you take some neurofen/painkillers. I hope you're ok soon. hugs

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    Am back just went to my local massage therapist who does deep tissue massage awesome but sore at the time. I would reky on dr m over a fs. Im a bit sore with lyns office anyway i rung up.last year to make an appt was told to send over my notes lyn will assess whether she chooses to treat you since you are now 40!! I figured i would keep my 500 bucks.

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    @Twiglets I am so sorry to hear it was a bfn for you.

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    @Twiglets I'm so sorry to hear about your bfn. I hope you find some way to manage that pain. Is there a reasons why it's so painful? Is that usual?

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    @Tahli good luck with your operation tomorrow. I hope it all goes well and you recover quickly.

    I would also go with Dr M over LB do you know whom she is referring to by the woman who discovered nk cells? Nk cells were discovered many years ago. Agree with Charlie that it is big in the U.K. I am originally from that part of the world and when I filled out the form for Dr M asking for family history, I asked my mum to email her sisters and tell them about my miscarriages and ask them and also their daughters if they had had any. Anyway one of my aunts asked me if she could tell her son (who is a gynaecologist) about me and email me about it. I said ok. Anyway I told him I was looking in to immune issues and was (and I still am) on the fence about it. he said implantation is poorly understood and that imunne issues in pregnancy were recognised in the U.K and he gave me the name of a doctor in London and some links to articles she had written about it. It was interesting and it gave me the push to just accept and do whatever Dr M told me.

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    @Twiglets I'm so sorry hun. Huge hugs.
    Thanks for your input on immune issues girls, inc @Charlie74. I think a point worth considering is that even if the FS's don't fully support particular immune issues they are still running commercially viable and competitive businesses. I know of 2 clinics where the owner of one and the Director of another don't support intralipids but offer them anyway because they don't do any harm but more importantly the demand thus the profit is there to be made. It is after all, a business.
    @calypso75 Thanks for the good wishes. I'm more worried LB will find something more sinister than 'just' a fertility issue. Which female UK specialist are you referring to out of interest?
    Thanks @tuxcat. My paperwork says D&C (grease and oil change) but I know LB doesn't want to touch my tricky thin lining so I'm not sure whether it will be more of a pressure-wash! Re immune issues I'm in the undecided camp on some of them too. Not all but some. And I'm guessing that's where a lot of FS's are too which is understandable without the big conclusive study all of us are crying out for.
    @winsor Maybe you could offer to replace the expensive 'concentric' Genea artwork with some of your own. Goodness knows you must be inspired after today's imagery!
    @midnite01 I would be totally peed off about that too, esp as I'm sure a lot of us never had our files reviewed by LB first. It's so dependent upon who takes the ph call. I can't stand her incompetent staff. But that's another rant all together!
    @Charlie74 Just out of interest, my CT clinic are suggesting 4 weeks to build my lining up, so a good bit longer than normal. It gives them time to try every estrogen boosting trick in the book I think. Normally it's about 2.5 weeks.
    @Blossom I hope you're feeling more uhm, 'balanced' (said with kindness) tonight and have done something nice for yourself, or even better DH has done it for you!
    @BlondeinBrisvegas Ta for your thoughts too. There isn't any difference in the time-line to make the decision. OE or DE will start in 2 weeks when AF arrives (if the hysteroscopy goes well - touch wood, a lot of wood), so I'd need to get all the meds sorted in a week. I just need to hear the magic chance of success from LB then hopefully the decision is made...just as long as she doesn't say 10%.
    I'm sorry I haven't replied to every-ones comments but my eyes are hanging out and I need to go pack my hospital bag and make my vjayjay presentable for inspection tomorrow.
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    Twiglets so sorry about your bffn. Look after yourself.

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    @Tahli it is a natural feeling to worry. I hope nothing is found, but if there is and it is fixed, then you can say, so that is why I was having issues and proceed with a lot more confidence. The name of the U.K doctor is Professor Siobhan Quenby.

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