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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Or a day off at all from what I hear!
    Just life. Something that I ponder though is that Australia is just so vast -we claim to love this country yet how many of us have explored it to any great degree? This isn't accusatory in any way.
    I grow the lamb that the adds want you to eat and we get 80-$100 for a whole sheep.
    I wonder if we'll ever have a sense of unity as a country.

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    I actually never knew there was an issue with the actual date of Australia Day until last night when DH was listening to an ethics speech by Stan Grant, apparently described as Australia's Martin Luther King moment which I kind of disagree with since its seems many Australians are barely paying attention to it. It was a great speech but I don't think it is going to have much of an impact in causing change.

    I completely understand why there is an issue with the date but I also understand why it was chosen. If you were going to pick a date that celebrates being 'Australian,' what date should it be? What other days do you have in your history that represent a key point in time of becoming 'Australia?' Or do you think the actual date chosen doesn't need to be symbolic and you can celebrate being Australian any day since being Australian should be more about the nation as a whole rather than when whites arrived. The Fourth of July was chosen as that is a date in our history that we declared independence from Britain so it holds significance for modern day America but there's been a lot said about getting rid of Columbus Day, a day celebrating Columbus discovering America since he was actually a pretty **** person and brought disease and invasion to Native Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    Just life. Something that I ponder though is that Australia is just so vast -we claim to love this country yet how many of us have explored it to any great degree? .
    Me maybe that's why I love being an Aussie. My favourites are WA (Broome) and the NT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    I actually never knew there was an issue with the actual date of Australia Day until last night when DH was listening to an ethics speech by Stan Grant, apparently described as Australia's Martin Luther King moment which I kind of disagree with since its seems many Australians are barely paying attention to it. It was a great speech but I don't think it is going to have much of an impact in causing change.

    I completely understand why there is an issue with the date but I also understand why it was chosen. If you were going to pick a date that celebrates being 'Australian,' what date should it be? What other days do you have in your history that represent a key point in time of becoming 'Australia?' Or do you think the actual date chosen doesn't need to be symbolic and you can celebrate being Australian any day since being Australian should be more about the nation as a whole rather than when whites arrived. The Fourth of July was chosen as that is a date in our history that we declared independence from Britain so it holds significance for modern day America but there's been a lot said about getting rid of Columbus Day, a day celebrating Columbus discovering America since he was actually a pretty **** person and brought disease and invasion to Native Americans.
    The fact that most people ignore it speaks volumes. It was an amazing speech.
    TBH, I don't know if we even need a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Me maybe that's why I love being an Aussie. My favourites are WA (Broome) and the NT.
    I've never been to Broome. Ever been farming?

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    Who would be better off, a black person in America or an aboriginal in Australia..? How high are our 'hate crimes' in comparison? As for the life expectancy, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." I live in a rural area, there is a health/community centre here specifically aimed to/for aboriginal people.. We would build a house for someone who identifies as an aboriginal person.. Another reason I love Australia...
    I'm not a racist, I am a proud Anglo Saxon person... Just remember.. Once upon a time we all walked through the bush somewhere, **** naked, carrying a spear..
    And here comes the 'convict colony' thing........ In the beginning, we didn't want to come here anyway, we were up-rooted from our way of life and what we knew and brought to a foreign land.. 'Nuff said?
    I've always been a believer in "help those who help themselves"... Anyway.. Just my opinion.. I know people will disagree but it's good to see other perspectives, am I wrong..?
    Tomorrow I'll be eating my lamb and enjoying our country.. Cheers to all.. 😊🍻✨✨✨🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 🇺

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitsHead View Post
    Who would be better off, a black person in America or an aboriginal in Australia..? How high are our 'hate crimes' in comparison? As for the life expectancy, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." I live in a rural area, there is a health/community centre here specifically aimed to/for aboriginal people.. We would build a house for someone who identifies as an aboriginal person.. Another reason I love Australia...
    I'm not a racist, I am a proud Anglo Saxon person... Just remember.. Once upon a time we all walked through the bush somewhere, **** naked, carrying a spear..
    And here comes the 'convict colony' thing........ In the beginning, we didn't want to come here anyway, we were up-rooted from our way of life and what we knew and brought to a foreign land.. 'Nuff said?
    I've always been a believer in "help those who help themselves"... Anyway.. Just my opinion.. I know people will disagree but it's good to see other perspectives, am I wrong..?
    Tomorrow I'll be eating my lamb and enjoying our country.. Cheers to all.. ✨✨✨
    Gets popcorn and settles back

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Australia Day knockers: do you feel strongly enough in your convictions to turn up to work tomorrow (if you work) and forgo the public holiday?
    I'm knocking it coz I am working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitsHead View Post
    Who would be better off, a black person in America or an aboriginal in Australia..? How high are our 'hate crimes' in comparison? As for the life expectancy, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." I live in a rural area, there is a health/community centre here specifically aimed to/for aboriginal people.. We would build a house for someone who identifies as an aboriginal person.. Another reason I love Australia...
    I'm not a racist, I am a proud Anglo Saxon person... Just remember.. Once upon a time we all walked through the bush somewhere, **** naked, carrying a spear..
    And here comes the 'convict colony' thing........ In the beginning, we didn't want to come here anyway, we were up-rooted from our way of life and what we knew and brought to a foreign land.. 'Nuff said?
    I've always been a believer in "help those who help themselves"... Anyway.. Just my opinion.. I know people will disagree but it's good to see other perspectives, am I wrong..?
    Tomorrow I'll be eating my lamb and enjoying our country.. Cheers to all.. ✨✨✨
    Little tip from you to me -if you start a sentence with "I'm not a racist", you probably are.
    Enjoy your lamb.

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    Default How do you really feel about Australia Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by BitsHead View Post
    Who would be better off, a black person in America or an aboriginal in Australia..? How high are our 'hate crimes' in comparison? As for the life expectancy, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." I live in a rural area, there is a health/community centre here specifically aimed to/for aboriginal people.. We would build a house for someone who identifies as an aboriginal person.. Another reason I love Australia...
    I'm not a racist, I am a proud Anglo Saxon person... Just remember.. Once upon a time we all walked through the bush somewhere, **** naked, carrying a spear..
    And here comes the 'convict colony' thing........ In the beginning, we didn't want to come here anyway, we were up-rooted from our way of life and what we knew and brought to a foreign land.. 'Nuff said?
    I've always been a believer in "help those who help themselves"... Anyway.. Just my opinion.. I know people will disagree but it's good to see other perspectives, am I wrong..?
    Tomorrow I'll be eating my lamb and enjoying our country.. Cheers to all.. 😊🍻✨✨✨🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 🇺
    I think your argument needs to be more about America's relationship with our Native Americans and what we have done to reconcile that when you are comparing the two.

    Yes, America deals with racism but African Americans have much more opportunities to succeed in America than Aboriginals do in Australia. Also, any issue with the relationship between blacks and whites in America doesn't have to do with Fourth of July, most African Americans would celebrate that day like any American.

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