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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    @sunnygirl79 I don't think anyone is saying we shouldn't have a day each year to celebrate Australia. The concern is what 26 January represents is upsetting to many.
    I wasn't directing my post at anyone else's. I believe the title of the thread was asking for personal opinions. And my opinion is it should be a day for celebration - for all Australians. It's clear to me there's a lot of indigenous Australians who are offended by the date and that's fair enough. Maybe they should change the date. I honestly don't think it would stop people from being offended in one way or another. I think the whole reconciliation thing is a MASSIVE issue far bigger than can be fixed by just one day, it's a huge complex issue (and we're not the only country in the world to have this issue), and not one I am about to start debating here.

    At the end of the day we're one of the most multicultural societies in the world, most of us didn't choose to live here but are very grateful to be here and shouldn't be made to feel bad for celebrating the wonderful country we live in, and concentrate on making a better future for everyone. That's just my opinion, what it means to me. No offence intended to anyone.

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    Australia Day knockers: do you feel strongly enough in your convictions to turn up to work tomorrow (if you work) and forgo the public holiday?

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    What I really dislike about Australia Day is I feel like January never gets out of 2nd gear as there's another long weekend around the corner. People often don't go back to work until the 11th and then just as you get out of holiday mode we get another one.

    It's been my gripe for the 20 odd years I've been working.

    And the date definitely needs to change. I don't object to celebrating Australia but seriously how can anyone argue the date is just plain offensive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Australia Day knockers: do you feel strongly enough in your convictions to turn up to work tomorrow (if you work) and forgo the public holiday?
    I have. Not because I'm a knocker of celebrating Australia but because the date is a PITA.

    And I often work the queens birthday holiday. I actually always worked it until kids and I couldn't get care for them.
    @VicPark do you not have any issue with the date?

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    @sunnygirl79 I agree it's only a small thing to change the date but that's what many said about saying sorry. Yet so much can be achieved by small acts.

    I'm struggling with it TBH as my kids get older and ask me more about what the date means. I don't think it's fair to white wash it and say we're celebrating what it means to be Australian. That's part of it but the date is there for a reason.

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    I guess for me, I can't reconcile the suffering of people - migrants, refugees, Indigenous Australians, victims of domestic violence. it makes me feel really uncomfortable and so I choose not to celebrate.
    I am grateful to have been born here as a first generation Australian but that was just dumb luck. I haven't earned this privilege.
    I hope something changes in terms of when we celebrate being Australian but I doubt it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I have. Not because I'm a knocker of celebrating Australia but because the date is a PITA.

    And I often work the queens birthday holiday. I actually always worked it until kids and I couldn't get care for them.
    @VicPark do you not have any issue with the date?
    I agree the date is a little off. Just wondering to what extent people are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Are people prepared to turn up to work (forgoing any Public holiday pay/time off in lieu) even thought their employer was more than happy for them to have the public holiday off? Just a concept I thought of - haven't actually heard of anyone voluntarily forgoing a public holiday due to moral/social conscious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Australia Day knockers: do you feel strongly enough in your convictions to turn up to work tomorrow (if you work) and forgo the public holiday?
    We're farmers, mate. No such thing as a public holiday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I agree the date is a little off. Just wondering to what extent people are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Are people prepared to turn up to work (forgoing any Public holiday pay/time off in lieu) even thought their employer was more than happy for them to have the public holiday off? Just a concept I thought of - haven't actually heard of anyone voluntarily forgoing a public holiday due to moral/social conscious reasons.
    For many people it's pretty hard to put your money where your mouth is if your workplace is shut. When I worked before kids I couldn't have gone in on a public holiday even if I wanted to, it was a huge building for a government agency and it was completely locked up. I couldn't have physically gotten in. And when I worked in retail during uni and was rostered on it would have been impossible to not get paid the penalty rates (I worked for a Woolworths subsidiary). You got paid what the payroll system paid you.
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    I always go into work on Australia Day. It's usually so close to the start of the school year that it's important.


 
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