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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    What's she supposed to do? Break in to her workplace?
    There's plenty other ways one can refuse to accept the Australia Day public holiday. Volunteer work for one, working extra hours on other days for another. That is - if it was important enough an issue to make a stand on.

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    Yep -SA,NSW, Vic
    I'm very out but glad to hear that you know what a farmers life is like.

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    Default How do you really feel about Australia Day?

    But why does anyone have to make a stand to be permitted to have an opinion? We were asked our opinion on an Internet forum! I just don't understand why you're pushing your point so hard.

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    Default How do you really feel about Australia Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    I think Barack Obama has a much better life than many of our indigenous people. Denzel Washington does ok as well, from what I can gather? That Tiger Woods bloke too.

    Seriously, I have lived in central Australia too. Aboriginal people are not horses to be led anywhere. They are by and large a grieving people whose cultures have been decimated, whose spiritual connection to the land has been eroded and commoditised.

    There is so much more to closing the gap than just providing housing and welfare (not that I'm knocking those things). It's still providing a handout mentality, a society in which the government controls the way these people live.

    Honestly, at least America had made some sort of reparations, has Black History month (no black history in our national curriculum). But some countries that have done really well to respect and value indigenous cultures are New Zealand and Canada. If we want to make comparisons, that's where I'm looking.
    I love this post but just want to point out that there is a difference in America between 'blacks'/African Americans and Native Americans. Yes they are both minorities in America that experience set backs due to racism but their history and 'place' in American culture is quite different.

    Not aiming this post at you, but more I think because many Australians refer to their indigenous people as 'black' that they often think it is the same thing as a black American when it is actually different. Obviously both dealing with tragic histories in American culture but dealing with different issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Moot? You never did explain why you weren't able to give up the free day off to volunteer to help others.
    What's with riding me tonight? You looking for an argument? I'm not really in the mood.

    I haven't ever volunteered, save for a year on the kinder committee. I don't enjoy it. Your question is a bit ridiculous TBH, it's taking a concept, running with it to the extreme and then suggesting there's no middle ground. I've already said I'm not super passionate about it, I'm apathetic towards Australia Day, not repulsed and that my middle ground is that I simply don't "celebrate". I'm not really sure what else you want me to say. Plenty of other people have said they don't support Australia Day, maybe quote them instead, you might get an answer your looking for.
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    Default How do you really feel about Australia Day?

    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    But why does anyone have to make a stand to be permitted to have an opinion? We were asked our opinion on an Internet forum! I just don't understand why you're pushing your point so hard.
    They don't. Anyone can have an opinion. All I'm saying is you can't claim the moral high ground on being against Straya day and then take the public holiday off. Well you can - it just denegrates the validity of your moral argument and creates a perception of opportunism.

    I'm not intentionally pushing the point hard - perhaps as it's late and my views are in the minority it seems like they are being pushed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Moot? You never did explain why you weren't able to give up the free day off to volunteer to help others.
    I believe you mean a Mooo point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    But why does anyone have to make a stand to be permitted to have an opinion? We were asked our opinion on an Internet forum! I just don't understand why you're pushing your point so hard.
    I agree entirely. It's like at Christmas time atheists are tut tutted for daring to celebrate Christmas and exchanging presents.

    Seriously who cares? I used to get huge bonuses for beating targets which is why I worked most public holidays. I have also worked good Friday Easter Monday etc. Who cares? I often haven't.

    Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    I believe you mean a Mooo point.
    'It's like a cows opinion. It doesnt matter. It's moo.'

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    'It's like a cows opinion. It doesnt matter. It's moo.'
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