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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    This was the transition from daycare (with a kindy program) to Prep. There is no preschool in Qld.
    Oh ok. It's so confusing the way it's different in each state!

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    @Full House just picking up on your comment that only one person who said the OP's son would be ok. Not sure if that was a reference to me but just to clarify in case it was

    In WA we cannot delay sending kids. If we could would I? I can't say obviously. If we were still in Vic I don't think my second would have gone til the next year as she's April. My son would be one of the youngest. In an environment where everyone delays I may have held him back.

    I acknowledged my daughter struggled a lot when she first went. The boys in her class who were young have struggled big time. We had to move our daughter to an all girls school to help her cope when she was 5. My son will go to an all boys school where they have a middle school as I don't want him going to the state high school with 2500 other children.

    This thread has really opened my eyes. I don't even know why they bother having cut offs (I think BigRedV made the point much earlier) and just have an age for year 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyno1onboard View Post
    This was the transition from daycare (with a kindy program) to Prep. There is no preschool in Qld.
    Yes there is. It's called kindy and goes usually 5 days a fortnight 9-3. My daughter did it last year. Called preschool in nsw and act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    @Full House just picking up on your comment that only one person who said the OP's son would be ok. Not sure if that was a reference to me but just to clarify in case it was

    In WA we cannot delay sending kids. If we could would I? I can't say obviously. If we were still in Vic I don't think my second would have gone til the next year as she's April. My son would be one of the youngest. In an environment where everyone delays I may have held him back.

    I acknowledged my daughter struggled a lot when she first went. The boys in her class who were young have struggled big time. We had to move our daughter to an all girls school to help her cope when she was 5. My son will go to an all boys school where they have a middle school as I don't want him going to the state high school with 2500 other children.

    This thread has really opened my eyes. I don't even know why they bother having cut offs (I think BigRedV made the point much earlier) and just have an age for year 1.
    It wasn't aimed at you. I was really just looking at people who live in NSW, as all the differences between states has confused me to no end!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    It wasn't aimed at you. I was really just looking at people who live in NSW, as all the differences between states has confused me to no end!
    All good.

    School has been a very complicated journey for my 2nd born for so many reasons. I hadn't ever factored in the age as it's the norm here. I actually have the reverse problem that she's a candidate for acceleration which I've refused to consider because of her age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    This is the grey area

    I think February really is hard and I really don't know what I would do in that situation. To me, after March it's a no brainer but February/March it really is individual case by case. I've got 2 friends whose boys started they year they turned 5 and going great, I've got 2 friends whose daughter's are February and sending them at 6. 3/4 parents of the girls I just mentioned sending their kids are qualified teachers and working in education field Hope this helps!
    So you think before Feb is a Grey area. Do you think 6 months (feb-july) really makes a difference ?

    I myself was a may baby who started at 4.5.
    Pretty much finished all the work before the other kids in the class so the teacher either gave me a few extra questions to do or let me go to the front of the class to play. I am not claiming to be a genius or anything like that. What I am saying is that age alone cannot determine whether he will struggle with learning at school.
    And a - squared made a good point about kids getting bored. That should be considered too. Isn't that why some kids get moved up a grade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jontu View Post
    So you think before Feb is a Grey area. Do you think 6 months (feb-july) really makes a difference ?

    I myself was a may baby who started at 4.5.
    Pretty much finished all the work before the other kids in the class so the teacher either gave me a few extra questions to do or let me go to the front of the class to play. I am not claiming to be a genius or anything like that. What I am saying is that age alone cannot determine whether he will struggle with learning at school.
    And a - squared made a good point about kids getting bored. That should be considered too. Isn't that why some kids get moved up a grade?
    @Jontu kids don't get moved grades because they're bored. It's a really complicated process. My second has been considered for acceleration because of her IQ but we have resisted it because she is an April baby.

    Kids should not be bored at school. Teachers give my daughter school work tailored to her IQ and abilities and we also have enrolled her in specialist music programs to keep her challenged.

    At our school maybe 1 kid gets moved every couple of years so it's very uncommon. I think it was more common when I was at school but the social impacts of it were not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    * Not aimed at the Op - just keeping on with the general discussion of the thread*

    I forgot about this before (as this child is now in highschool, so it's been a while), but one of my friend's sent her son to school at 4 with a May birthday...daycare said he was ready, at school orientation that said he'd be fine for kindergarten, big driving force behind the parent's decision was daycare fees.
    Cue end of kindergarten - academically, going fine, but he was one of 5 boys who needed to repeat kindergarten...why? Because their peers were 12-18 months older than them, and maturity wise they just hadn't kept up (simply because they were 12-18 months younger, not because they were particularly immature). 2nd year of kindergarten went great...said child thrived.
    Then year one came...that child spent his whole year telling his parents he was too dumb for year one and needed to go back to kindergarten. The emotional impact of repeating kindergarten on this kid was HUGE. He spent the whole year struggling emotionally. His parents found it really exhausting and it took a lot of extra resources to get him through year one. Got him through year one, and he had similar issues through year 2, believing he needed to re-do year one.
    In the end, he had to change schools to be able to overcome his feelings that he wasn't good enough to be in the years he was currently at. So hard on everyone involved, and had he just started a year older he never would have had to have gone through it. Who knows if those intense feelings of doubt will return once he hits the later years of highschool/university/work promotions etc.
    I don't under stand what was their reason for repeating the child then if he was going fine academically and it wasn't his maturity either? Maybe it was repeating him that was the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Kids should not be bored at school. Teachers give my daughter school work tailored to her IQ and abilities and we also have enrolled her in specialist music programs to keep her challenged.
    This. DD is well ahead of her peers and rather annoyed they haven't skipped her lol but to their credit every year the teacher sits down with me and we discuss extension work based on her interests. She is in her own reading group lol she is given tasks when finished to help her peers (which is great for leadership and communication skills, empathy etc).

    I discussed skipping her early on but public schools and private don't do it much anymore, if ever. It's bc research shows children thrive *generally* with their peers. Some gifted kids have high IQ but 'normal' social and emotional skills for the chronological age.

    If your child is bored OP, speak to the teacher about an acceleration program. IME teachers really appreciate plugged in parents who involve themselves rather than whinge from the side lines (I don't mean you or anyone in that comment, just a general one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jontu View Post
    So you think before Feb is a Grey area. Do you think 6 months (feb-july) really makes a difference ?

    I myself was a may baby who started at 4.5.
    Pretty much finished all the work before the other kids in the class so the teacher either gave me a few extra questions to do or let me go to the front of the class to play. I am not claiming to be a genius or anything like that. What I am saying is that age alone cannot determine whether he will struggle with learning at school.
    And a - squared made a good point about kids getting bored. That should be considered too. Isn't that why some kids get moved up a grade?
    Honestly, 6 months is huge in all aspects of development in 4 year olds. Do you really not see that?

    Unless a child is an absolute genius, nobody gets moved up grades???? I've never heard of this, the last one I read about was an exceptional child in primary doing high school subjects.

    I'd rather my child be playing up because they're bored in daycare than playing up because they're struggling at school.

    Again, you seem to be only talking about the learning. Nobody is saying that your son can't or won't learn.m this year. The point is there is a much bigger picture here than him just coping in the first year of school that some people seem to be missing.

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