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    Ha ha semantics! I call that a May cut off :-) how funny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    No I don't but you have one anecdotal experience of you as a 17 year old and think the op should listen, but telling the op to ignore other teachers on here because they're strangers and ignore my comments too (I've been teaching for 22 years) but anyway...op I hope your son goes well.
    I never said for the OP to base her decision on my experience alone - that would be ridiculous. I merely suggested that the OP should use another posters specific experience as the determining factor in her decision and offered my experience to explain why.

    I am not trying to pressure the OP into deciding one way or another and I don't think it's helpful for others to do this either. By all means give advice and experience however bottom line the OP is best placed to make the decision after considering all advice. People shouldn't necessarily take the OP making a different decision personally/ as her not respecting their opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I never said for the OP to base her decision on my experience alone - that would be ridiculous. I merely suggested that the OP should use another posters specific experience as the determining factor in her decision and offered my experience to explain why.

    I am not trying to pressure the OP into deciding one way or another and I don't think it's helpful for others to do this either. By all means give advice and experience however bottom line the OP is best placed to make the decision after considering all advice. People shouldn't necessarily take the OP making a different decision personally/ as her not respecting their opinions.
    I have not said she isn't respecting anyone's opinions, but she seems to have made up her mind, no matter how much people throw at her. Someone earlier pointed out that we take the advice of doctors, accountants, etc. yet so many discard the advice of teachers and I find this fascinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I have not said she isn't respecting anyone's opinions, but she seems to have made up her mind, no matter how much people throw at her. Someone earlier pointed out that we take the advice of doctors, accountants, etc. yet so many discard the advice of teachers and I find this fascinating.
    Maybe stop throwing advice then if it's reached a point of frustration (especially since school is already starting).

    Are you worried that the OP hadn't taken your advice (as a teacher who hasn't met her child ) on board? Or that she went with the advice of 2 daycare staff that had spent a lot if time with her child over 2 teachers that had met her child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    As a teacher I've seen many younger children struggle. But what do I know, eh?

    My son is a July baby. It never even crossed my mind to send him to school last year. It's just way too young, I don't care how capable a child is academically, socially, etc. NSW (and very recently qld) are the only states that have a July cut off, in NSW we have the choice. ACT, vic, SA have an April cut off. In NT, everyone starts the year they turn 6. WA cut off is June. So if op lived in other states it would t even be a thread on here.

    And to be honest, the op admitted that one of the reasons she wanted to send him to school was because she didn't want to pay $20k in daycare fees. And that rang alarm bells to me and op had since "backtracked"
    I was hesitant to put that on here because I knew it would get scrutinized. If I felt he wasn't ready (if he was like my dd) then I wouldn't send him. I feel he is ready so why not send him and not have to pay $20k in childcare fees?
    It may be well and good to say money shouldnt be considered but reality is it does. It means we can keep living where we are, sennding kids to a school we are happy with in an area we like, being able to afford extra curricular activities etc.

    Also ds likes to copy what dd does when she is doing her readers etc so if they are 1 grade apart that makes it all the more easier.

    I have reread some of the earlier replies and there are several teachers who have said it's the individual child that is the main factor and not just age.

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    * Not aimed at the Op - just keeping on with the general discussion of the thread*

    I forgot about this before (as this child is now in highschool, so it's been a while), but one of my friend's sent her son to school at 4 with a May birthday...daycare said he was ready, at school orientation that said he'd be fine for kindergarten, big driving force behind the parent's decision was daycare fees.
    Cue end of kindergarten - academically, going fine, but he was one of 5 boys who needed to repeat kindergarten...why? Because their peers were 12-18 months older than them, and maturity wise they just hadn't kept up (simply because they were 12-18 months younger, not because they were particularly immature). 2nd year of kindergarten went great...said child thrived.
    Then year one came...that child spent his whole year telling his parents he was too dumb for year one and needed to go back to kindergarten. The emotional impact of repeating kindergarten on this kid was HUGE. He spent the whole year struggling emotionally. His parents found it really exhausting and it took a lot of extra resources to get him through year one. Got him through year one, and he had similar issues through year 2, believing he needed to re-do year one.
    In the end, he had to change schools to be able to overcome his feelings that he wasn't good enough to be in the years he was currently at. So hard on everyone involved, and had he just started a year older he never would have had to have gone through it. Who knows if those intense feelings of doubt will return once he hits the later years of highschool/university/work promotions etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Maybe stop throwing advice then if it's reached a point of frustration (especially since school is already starting).

    Are you worried that the OP hadn't taken your advice (as a teacher who hasn't met her child ) on board? Or that she went with the advice of 2 daycare staff that had spent a lot if time with her child over 2 teachers that had met her child?
    I'm not offended or frustrated at all, it's not my child's education we are talking about. But I do feel sorry for kids who get sent to school so parents don't have to pay daycare fees. That's not the right reason to send your child to school.

    As somebody pointed out earlier - daycare and even preschool are vastly different to school. They are play based. 4 year old boys should be playing. Not sitting in a classroom for hours a day. The op also said the teachers at the school her son is going to expressed concern over his age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jontu View Post
    I was hesitant to put that on here because I knew it would get scrutinized. If I felt he wasn't ready (if he was like my dd) then I wouldn't send him. I feel he is ready so why not send him and not have to pay $20k in childcare fees?
    It may be well and good to say money shouldnt be considered but reality is it does. It means we can keep living where we are, sennding kids to a school we are happy with in an area we like, being able to afford extra curricular activities etc.

    Also ds likes to copy what dd does when she is doing her readers etc so if they are 1 grade apart that makes it all the more easier.

    I have reread some of the earlier replies and there are several teachers who have said it's the individual child that is the main factor and not just age.
    Going by your postcode, I don't live far away

    Money isn't a consideration for me. When my eldest was 4 turning 5 (she is May baby) I was on maternity leave. Would've been perfect time to send her to school because I was off work, no before and after school care to worry about, but I didn't send her. I kept her in daycare 2 days a week with her friends and she also did 2 days of a preschool close by so she could get to know kids she was going to school with.

    Sure it would've been nice to not pay the daycare fees and preschool fees but that wasn't the right reason to send her to school.

    Anyway, I'm off to take my daughter to her first day if year 2

    I hope your son has a good day

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    Big red (and harvs and other teachers), just curious what you would do with my son being an early Feb baby. Would you think it's ok for him to start when he is just about to turn 5 or best to wait until he's just about to turn 6? I feel the latter but just curious if you think it matters as much for kids born earlier in the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    Big red (and harvs and other teachers), just curious what you would do with my son being and early Feb baby. Would you think it's ok for him to start when he is just about to turn 5 or best to wait until he's just about to turn 6? I feel the latter but just curious if you think it matters as much for kids born earlier in the year.
    This is the grey area

    I think February really is hard and I really don't know what I would do in that situation. To me, after March it's a no brainer but February/March it really is individual case by case. I've got 2 friends whose boys started they year they turned 5 and going great, I've got 2 friends whose daughter's are February and sending them at 6. 3/4 parents of the girls I just mentioned sending their kids are qualified teachers and working in education field Hope this helps!

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