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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    In my experience daycare/pre school teachers tell you if your child is ready for kindergarten...they don't see the struggles that occur throughout the primary years like teachets do. Teachers at your son's school expressed their concerns about his age...badically no one in here has said it will be fine (except one who lives in a different state, and said that most kids start older in NSW). People you have spoken to in your life have raised concerns
    I'm really not sure why you are still gun ho about sending him based on two daycare teachers when everyone else has suggested his age has a huge potential to be a problem as his schooling years go on? You don't have to explain yourself (I am not expecting an answer), I'm just a bit surprised that you started this thread because you were having doubts, basically no one has told you to go for it because it will be fine, but you continue to justify why it will be okay...and maybe it will, but I'm not sure what the point of this thread was if I'm honest.
    Wouldn't someone who knows the ins and outs of the child have a better idea that a stranger on a forum who can only speak in general terms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jontu View Post
    I started this thread asking for experiences from parents who have sent their kids before they turned 5. The first few replies came from parents who did. Some said their kids are doing great and some said they wished they had waited.
    I also asked for experience from teachers. Sure all the teachers who replied on here have said it's better to wait. Thing is they said most kids struggle. Not all. So who can tell me for certain my son will struggle?
    So many times people say trust your instincts you know your child. Like I said I had doubts bc so many people around me are holding their kids back. People around have not raised concerns specifically about my son. Then seeing the 60 min interview made me doubt myself bc of the future teenage years.

    Anyway that's why I started this thread. I was happy with my decision and only came back to reply bc some subsequent questions.
    Look. Nobody can guarantee that your child will struggle. But what I said was nobody can guarantee that he won't. That's not a risk I would be willing to take given he is so young. Another year at home will not be detrimental. That IS a guarantee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Look. Nobody can guarantee that your child will struggle. But what I said was nobody can guarantee that he won't. That's not a risk I would be willing to take given he is so young. Another year at home will not be detrimental. That IS a guarantee.
    I wouldn't hold my child back for a whole year just incase they struggle. I would use all the tools at my disposal (seeking others experiences on readiness signs, obtain the opinion of daycare/preschool staff; see an expert if needed.... ) And then I would make a judgement call on all that plus my own experiences with my child.

    I certainly wouldn't hold back my child for a whole year just because strangers online tell me to or advise me that it couldn't do any harm to hold him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I wouldn't hold my child back for a whole year just incase they struggle. I would use all the tools at my disposal (seeking others experiences on readiness signs, obtain the opinion of daycare/preschool staff; see an expert if needed.... ) And then I would make a judgement call on all that plus my own experiences with my child.

    I certainly wouldn't hold back my child for a whole year just because strangers online tell me to or advise me that it couldn't do any harm to hold him back.
    As a teacher I've seen many younger children struggle. But what do I know, eh?

    My son is a July baby. It never even crossed my mind to send him to school last year. It's just way too young, I don't care how capable a child is academically, socially, etc. NSW (and very recently qld) are the only states that have a July cut off, in NSW we have the choice. ACT, vic, SA have an April cut off. In NT, everyone starts the year they turn 6. WA cut off is June. So if op lived in other states it would t even be a thread on here.

    And to be honest, the op admitted that one of the reasons she wanted to send him to school was because she didn't want to pay $20k in daycare fees. And that rang alarm bells to me and op had since "backtracked"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apple93 View Post
    Here is another thing to think about.
    I was one of the youngest of my year! In school sporting days (swimming/athletic carnivals, I made my patents let me take these days off) we were teamed the year we were born so I was never with my friends.
    year 11 I ended up having to catch the bus by myself as all my friends started to get their P's. And in year
    12 there were only certain 18th birthdays I could go to!
    OP I wouldn't let this be the decider in holding your kid back. I was one of the younger ones in my year (17 in year 12), was never with my friends at sport carnivals and it had everything to do with stupid sport 'houses' and my friends just didn't happen to be in mine. What a great opportunity to teach kids resilience.

    For me - it never worried me that some friends had P's before me.I never sat there and moaned that I had to walk 30 minutes to school while a few kids in the class drove. I would have loved to have bus it instead of walk though - easier to fit extra study/cramming in.

    Being 17 in year 12 and not being able to go to an 18 birthday at a licensed establishment didn't bother me. For every one of those there were 10 house parties (parents away type thing) where I could socialise with my friends. (On that note - if your 17 year old child every says they are going to a friends house to watch DVDs ... Proceed with caution )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    As a teacher I've seen many younger children struggle. But what do I know, eh?
    You know a lot on the topic obviously however you don't know the Ops child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    As a teacher I've seen many younger children struggle. But what do I know, eh?

    My son is a July baby. It never even crossed my mind to send him to school last year. It's just way too young, I don't care how capable a child is academically, socially, etc. NSW (and very recently qld) are the only states that have a July cut off, in NSW we have the choice. ACT, vic, SA have an April cut off. In NT, everyone starts the year they turn 6. WA cut off is June. So if op lived in other states it would t even be a thread on here.

    And to be honest, the op admitted that one of the reasons she wanted to send him to school was because she didn't want to pay $20k in daycare fees. And that rang alarm bells to me and op had since "backtracked"
    OT but just to clarify for SA parents, we actually have a May 1st cut off here :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    You know a lot on the topic obviously however you don't know the Ops child.
    No I don't but you have one anecdotal experience of you as a 17 year old and think the op should listen, but telling the op to ignore other teachers on here because they're strangers and ignore my comments too (I've been teaching for many years) but anyway...op I hope your son goes well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jontu View Post
    I started this thread asking for experiences from parents who have sent their kids before they turned 5. The first few replies came from parents who did. Some said their kids are doing great and some said they wished they had waited.
    I also asked for experience from teachers. Sure all the teachers who replied on here have said it's better to wait. Thing is they said most kids struggle. Not all. So who can tell me for certain my son will struggle?
    So many times people say trust your instincts you know your child. Like I said I had doubts bc so many people around me are holding their kids back. People around have not raised concerns specifically about my son. Then seeing the 60 min interview made me doubt myself bc of the future teenage years.

    Anyway that's why I started this thread. I was happy with my decision and only came back to reply bc some subsequent questions.
    Ok Cool. I just read in to your OP a bit differently But yeah, no one has guaranteed your child will struggle, but the risk is a lot higher than any possible risks of waiting until 2017 to start kindy. But, it is 110% your risk assessment to make

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Wouldn't someone who knows the ins and outs of the child have a better idea that a stranger on a forum who can only speak in general terms?
    Yes, of course..but I think there have been some very valid points made here in terms of teenage years/after school sports etc. And with those things you can only speak in general terms. My children at 4.5 were so different to what they were at 10 etc. No one can truly know what their child will be like, you can guess, sure, but you can't truly know. So, if you're looking at beyond kindergarten these are hard questions you need to ask yourself. How will you handle your child upset and in tears that they never get to participate in team sports with their friends? How will you handle your child not getting invited to do things with their mates in their vulnerable teen years because they're simply not old enough to participate in the same activities they are. Heck, not even the teenage years...there are some kid parties here that require each child to be a certain age, so your child is then automatically knocked off the list because they're not old enough to play laser tag, or go to an inflatable pool party etc. There are so many more things to consider than just how they will cope in the classroom. No one in here has said that ALL children should be held back, but everyone with some experience has said that a July birthday is way too late in the year, and the cut off should be March. That says volumes to me. I think BigredV said it perfectly is that there is no guarantee that a 4.5 year old (any 4.5 year old, not talking about Jontu's son) will struggle, but it is a guarantee that waiting until 5.5 will NOT be detrimental. It's not a risk that you're taking for a year, it's a risk that you're taking for 13 years of your child's life. It's definitely worth serious consideration, and a whole ton of advice. In Jontu's case, in her own life she's had two daycare teachers say he'll be fine, and two teachers at the school express concerns. So, if you're classing them as experts, then it's fair to say it's a 50/50 divide and more advice should be sought? Yeah? (And Jontu, I'm sorry...I'm merely using you as an example because you started the thread. I know that you're confident in sending your DS to school, I am not trying to tell you, you shouldn't. I'm just using your DS as an example to answer VicPark, and am also commenting on VP's last post where she said she wouldn't hold her child back based on what strangers on an internet forum say).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    OT but just to clarify for SA parents, we actually have a May 1st cut off here :-)
    Actually, if the child turns 5 on or after May 1 they have to start the following year, so cut off is April April 30 to be exact!

    https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/educati...primary-school

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