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    My DH knows what I want. He was really good with my first. I did not speak much during labour (except to crack a joke or two). At the beginning I did tell the midwives I was ok with epidural if required but pretty much just go with it.

    I consented to all the shots. Also to syntocinon which I will do this time. I will not be taking my placenta so if that is something important make sure they know! I lost track of everything after baby was out!

    So my plan is mostly whatevs. Probably not helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M'LadyEm View Post
    @turquoisecoast I don't think it does. Syntocinon is designed to contract the uterus to help the placenta separate from the uterine wall. I don't believe it crosses into the placenta. I can ask one of the midwives I work with if you like though, she does placenta encapsulation.

    Also with your birth plan/preferences, give it to the midwives the moment you're admitted to hospital. It means we can have a read of it and see what you do/don't want without having to actually ask you. Particularly helpful if you're "in the zone" during labour. The last thing you want is a million questions coming at you. Plus then if something is going awry, they can discuss it with you as per what your preferences are. For example if there's meconium in your waters, they can tell you that a) you'll need to be monitored, but b) they have a wireless monitor to allow you to remain active.
    oooh thanks for that info, very helpful! if you could find out re the syntocinon and encapsulation, I would be forever grateful

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    Quote Originally Posted by alliecat89 View Post
    Not to my knowledge. The syntocinon is just to deliver the placenta, doesn't affect how the placenta comes out.

    Hot tip for no visitors (not saying that you'll do this!) - don't tell anyone that you're in labour or that you've had the baby especially on social media. The amount of people that are all #inlabour and then complain about the visitors are amazing - don't bloody tell them!!

    With the birth plan - take it to your antenatal appointment around 36 weeks. Discuss with the midwives and they can let you know if there's anything funky or something that doesn't gel with the hospital policies and then can also file it in your chart so that it can be found easily when you come into labour.

    Don't be cranky if some things get double checked - even though you've said yes to syntocinon or vitamin k in your birth plan, I still need to get verbal consent from you at the time.

    Same as things like "discuss all things with my support person, not with me". Unless they are your legal guardian and are legally making medical choices for you, I do need to discuss things like concerns, possible interventions and complications etc with you as well.

    Don't feel like you can't change your mind either - if you've said 100% no to an epidural in labour in the plan and you decide for whatever reason that an epidural sounds like an awesome idea, just do it. No one's going to think any less of you for not sticking to your plan. Changing your mind on one thing also doesn't mean that everything else on the plan goes out the window either.
    we've agreed to ignore all birth related correspondence in the lead up so its not suss when one/both of us suddenly goes off the grid for like 12-24 hours 😂

    and no, definitely no social media. to each his own but it's def not our cup of tea. we want to enjoy it privately and take it all in. once we're home and have recovered a bit, we'll jump online etc and make the announcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M'LadyEm View Post
    That's bizarre. Ah well. I've never heard of that being done before. All we do for people with a history of PPH is cannulate them at the beginning of labour and take some blood to check their blood count and strongly recommend an active 3rd stage. That's kind of it. Laying down is not going to do a thing to prevent a PPH.


    I agree, if you are going to bleed, you will bleed regardless. That's why I am going to be so adamant about walking around through my contractions. I have been informed that they will put a canula in, in case they need to give me something to make my uterus contract quicker to try and control the bleeding...I have been told that in the extreme case that if a blood loss couldn't be controlled or stopped, that a hysterectomy would be performed. I was told that before the birth of DD2...so I have always been prepared for that...fingers crossed that I don't have much of a blood loss this time around..lol, I can dream right! Also I have heard that rasberry leaf tea helps to contract the uterus and can help to reduce blood loss after birth. What are your beliefs regarding this? Would it be worth trying? As I have had two previous PPH's, I really have nothing to lose in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    does the shot of syntocinon affect your ability to encapsulate your placenta?

    I'm having encapsulation done and don't want anything that will compromise this.
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    oooh thanks for that info, very helpful! if you could find out re the syntocinon and encapsulation, I would be forever grateful
    An active third stage has no effect whatsoever on your desire to encapsulate your placenta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marchbundle View Post
    I agree, if you are going to bleed, you will bleed regardless. That's why I am going to be so adamant about walking around through my contractions. I have been informed that they will put a canula in, in case they need to give me something to make my uterus contract quicker to try and control the bleeding...I have been told that in the extreme case that if a blood loss couldn't be controlled or stopped, that a hysterectomy would be performed. I was told that before the birth of DD2...so I have always been prepared for that...fingers crossed that I don't have much of a blood loss this time around..lol, I can dream right! Also I have heard that rasberry leaf tea helps to contract the uterus and can help to reduce blood loss after birth. What are your beliefs regarding this? Would it be worth trying? As I have had two previous PPH's, I really have nothing to lose in my opinion.
    Tbh I don't really know a lot about raspberry leaf tea. Can't hurt though. If you've had 2 PPHs before they'll likely have the PPH emergency box of drugs in your room at delivery anyway, so if you do bleed, they can be straight onto it.

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    how have you gone with your birth plan @sunnygirl79 ?

    we got a template from the calm birth classes this week, I'm happy to attach a pic of it here if you're interested to see it.

    it's just a starting point and can be changed to suit the preferences of the couple.

    need to do ours as we have our 36 week appointment next week so will need to take it along to discuss with OB

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    I ended up just combining ideas from various templates/online. I don't consider it finished as such, it's a huge long list and I think a majority of the stuff they do as standard so it's over and above what's required. They did take copies at my last appt and at my preadmission appt so not sure I can be bothered summarising it further now 😂. Maybe if I get time waiting for this bub to come.

    I call it birth preferences rather than plan. I have no idea what the day will bring and I want to be as flexible as possible, but i know what didn't work for me last time so my main concern is not repeating those things.

    Bizarre thing - during our calmbirth class (4 + yrs ago now) we practised sitting straddled backward on a (dining room type) chair. When I was in labor this was my only comfortable position during a contraction - nothing else worked (and I tried everything - beanbags, birth balls, birth stools, tilted beds etc etc). And when I got to the hospital do you think they had a chair that I could straddle?? Any fricking chair without arms? No! And at this new hospital I asked the question and the midwife couldn't find a single one in the birth suite. Wtf?! Surely I am not the only woman that wanted to straddle a chair. I know it may be completely different this time in terms of what position I find comfortable but I told DH he's packing the dining room chair on our car if that's the case again! 😂

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    yes like you, I'm referring to mine as a preferences list. plan is too fixed and I don't want to get caught up in what's on the piece of paper as, if things don't go to plan, as they invariable don't, I don't want to walk away feeling like we've "failed".

    pain relief I have no clue about. will depend on the day. I've no idea what to expect but would prefer to try and keep it as minimal as my pain thresholds will allow 😂

    but dh and I said, if I end up with an epi, then so be it. it's not a competition with anyone else or even yourself (although I know I'll see it this way as I'm very competitive esp with myself lol) so whatever happens on the day, I will just go with it.

    I'm more concerned about medical staff offering/suggesting things. like I know what's available, I'll ask for it if I want it. I don't want some impatient doctor wandering in and out making unhelpful comments or suggesting an epidural or something. as I know the would really f.ck with my headspace. I'm hoping to remain as calm and focused as I can, my birth preferences therefore really revolve around things that will help facilitate this. ie dimmed lighting, minimal
    people wandering in and out, etc etc.

    what pain relief have you decided on or will you play by ear on the day? are you allowed an epidural if you're going for vbac? if not, can you have morphine/pethidine?

    looking into hiring a tens machine too. they spoke very highly of them in the calm birth classes.

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    re the chair thing. we practiced sitting in chairs in that exact position with a pillow over the back of it as the chairs were hard and wooden. it seemed like a fantastic position for labour.

    that's soooo odd they had no suitable chairs for this position at your last birth!! definitely pack a chair from home just in case for this time 😂

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